How were Heritage, Grenadier products sealed?
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Post Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:40 pm 
 

Is there a common mechanism through which their miniature boxsets, for example, were sealed? That is, can one easily detact a rewrap as one can do with TSR products?

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:10 am 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:Is there a common mechanism through which their miniature boxsets, for example, were sealed? That is, can one easily detact a rewrap as one can do with TSR products?

You could join the Heritage Miniatures Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disciplesofheritage/) and ask them.  Several former Heritage employees are on the list.  

Ummm . . . do you have some Heritage boxes you wanted to re-shrink?   :wink:

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:34 pm 
 

Thanks for the heads up.

And uh.. no.. only Grenadier boxsets  :wink:

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:59 pm 
 

How do you detect the fake seals from genuine seals?
How do you tell fake signatures from real signatures?

Does anyone else have an uneasy feeling about an arrogant newbie turning up out of the blue, trying to justify high prices on rare items, and at the same time asking for specifics about how collectors can spot forgeries?

If this guy has been collecting for 10 years, as he says, wouldn't he know this stuff?


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:43 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:How do you detect the fake seals from genuine seals?
How do you tell fake signatures from real signatures?

Does anyone else have an uneasy feeling about an arrogant newbie turning up out of the blue, trying to justify high prices on rare items, and at the same time asking for specifics about how collectors can spot forgeries?

If this guy has been collecting for 10 years, as he says, wouldn't he know this stuff?


I also have that uneasy feeling... :evil:

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:20 pm 
 

IttyBitty wrote:I also have that uneasy feeling... :evil:

Not that my opinion matters much, but I do, too --- mostly because I have a shrinked Rolemaster Pirates that I am currently auctioning and a common-but-shrinked boxed set of TSR minis that I'm going to auction soon.  I don't know if the shrink is genuine on the Pirates and say so in the auction.  The shrinked minis came from Canada and just looks old.

My eBay buyer ID is also close to "Sea-to-sky".  Maybe he is my evil twin . . . BadMike, do he and I look anything alike?   8O

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:51 pm 
 

If this guy has been collecting for 10 years, as he says, wouldn't he know this stuff?


Apparently I don't.

My sense is the values of signatures varies widely from collector to collector. Inquiring whether there is an acceptable standard for documenting such items seems like a reasonable question on a website supposedly designed to inform collectors.

Similarly, I'm not sufficiently knowledgeable to know the production techniques of all major firms that existed 20 years ago. It seems as though you are. Could you assist me then?

arrogant newbie turning up out of the blue


How very polite. Ironically, my thesis in two lengthy threads was only that one should not judge others..

Anyways, I have contributed material for documentation on this site in years past.. But I suppose one can't please everyone.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:21 pm 
 

What is this? WOTC's Boards?
I sense the start of some flames coming on.....

Not that I've bought minis in a while, but the last time I got a set of Grenadier Miniatures, not only were they NOT shrinkwrapped, but they were sealed like a modern puzzle box, i.e., the top's cover wrapped underneath the box and sealed against the underside of the box.

This is, of course, if I am remembering correctly.(20+ years ago.)


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:12 pm 
 

jkason wrote:Not that I've bought minis in a while, but the last time I got a set of Grenadier Miniatures, not only were they NOT shrinkwrapped, but they were sealed like a modern puzzle box, i.e., the top's cover wrapped underneath the box and sealed against the underside of the box.

This is, of course, if I am remembering correctly.(20+ years ago.)


I remember the same, but I've also got some of the Gold Line minis that are shrinkwrapped...nasty old brittle shrink, too, so I don't think it's fake.  Plus, the seller was reputable (a long-time member of the boards here).


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:48 pm 
 

Here are some that are shrinkwrapped currently on eBay all by the same seller....
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Not sure if the shrinkwrap is legit though...

  
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