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Post Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:13 pm 
 

I agree with the above...

1) Necromancer - well written, well laid out, good maps, clever plots & ideas

2) Iron Kingdoms - just my opinion, but I like the setting & characters, I find the production to be really well done

3) Goodman Games Dungeon Crawl Classics- lots of material, all are pretty useful (more or less), I like the old-school themes

4) Troll Lord Games - especially the CZ setting :)

5) honourable mention to Paizo, the Pathfinder AP books especially are just *beautiful*


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:55 pm 
 

Okay, but is it really as across the board as that?  Are you really recommending ALL Necromancer, AEG, DCCs, etc?

Not impossible, of course, just a little hard to believe.  ;)


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:01 pm 
 

TheHistorian wrote:Okay, but is it really as across the board as that?  Are you really recommending ALL Necromancer, AEG, DCCs, etc?


Are you really only going to buy 1 or 2 from the line ;)

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:06 pm 
 

Mars wrote:
Are you really only going to buy 1 or 2 from the line ;)


Well, I already have fifty times as much material as I could ever use, so...

YES!


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:56 pm 
 

TheHistorian wrote:Okay, but is it really as across the board as that?  Are you really recommending ALL Necromancer, AEG, DCCs, etc?

Not impossible, of course, just a little hard to believe.  ;)


So far all the Necromancer stuff has been good to great.

The DCC line pre-4e is like TSR 1e releases, some great, some good, some ehhh...

Iron Kingdoms is high production value and I've heard great things, but it is steam and gunpowder stuff.

Pathfinder is very slick and I hear great things but their Kingmaker series was disappointing after the 1st in the series, which I felt was very good.

I've heard good things about Black Sails over Freeport but haven't read through it yet.

Ptolus I recommend (and thanks for snagging me a copy).

If you are interested in DMing or world building I'd snap up the Gygax series of world/cosmo builder stuff while they are still cheap.

I'm not a big fan of the Green Ronin Mythic Vistas series except for the Egyptian Adventures Hamunaptra boxed set.

I also like what I have scanned through from the first book of the Drow War series from Mongoose.

And from Mongoose the items done by Gygax are worth getting from their slayer line.

And speaking of Gygax you should grab the Hall of Many Panes boxed set while it is also cheap.

I did find collecting the Necromancer and DCC lines highly addictive.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:53 am 
 

Would specifically recommend:

Rappan Athuk....either the very expensive and hard to find boxed set, or the three separate booklets.  It was a 1E crawl before they converted it to 3E and it shows.  One of the most old school products published by a 2E publisher.

The Gryphon's Legacy by Wolfgang Baur....one of the best low level adventures I've ever read, this was supposed to be the first adventure in an entire line (which petered out and was never published).  You can find it cheap and it's definitely worth picking up.

Lost City of Gaxmoor....fun stuff, you can see a lot of EGG in this adventure that his kids wrote.

Castle Zagyg items...hard to find but worth it.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:24 pm 
 

If you scroll up this thread I believe you will find a review of Lost City of Gaxmoor that I wrote.

It is easily the best D20 product from Troll Lord Games (others from that publisher are of lower quality...old school, but lower quality).

Lost City of Gaxmoor is a great example of the power and flexibility of the 3rd Edition rules.  You get a very nice ruined city map, a good setting and tons of stuff to kill.  

Add to this the plus that Lost City of Gaxmoor is often available for well under $10 on Ebay.  I have a couple copies just because I couldn't let one get away for...like...99 cents.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:32 pm 
 

Tome of Horrors I, from Necromancer Games, is the most old school of all the old school D20 products.

It has high quality art and writing, with all the best advantages of the 3rd Edition rules set.

It has a number of new monsters but...really cool...it has most of the AD&D monsters that WOTC had no intention of converting to 3rd Edition, including a number of silly/sad/awesome beasties from the original Fiend Folio.

Tome of Horrors I is a nice artifact from the early D20 era, when Bill Webb and Clarke Peterson were showing what the Open Gaming License could really mean for third-party publishers...with gamers as the big winners.

Tome of Horrors I was written for 3.0.  It is available in pdf for 3.5.  Anyone who runs a 3.5 game should pick up both the hardback and the pdf.  

Tome of Horrors II and III are written for the 3.5 rules.  As a set, they make a cool part of any D20 collection.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:04 pm 
 

If you're discussing d20 products to own for actual gaming reasons, I think that is entirely different than owning them for their supposed monetary value.

For example, Monsternomicon is a cool book for a gamer. Valueless to a reseller. I also even like the Book of Templates though I actually have grown to dislike the concept of templates (primarily because they were overused, like prestige classes.) There are a few setting resources like Hamunaptra or Testament that are worthwhile to use for inspiration (if one is bent that way) but do not really sell well -- I bought mine for $3.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:54 pm 
 

serleran wrote:If you're discussing d20 products to own for actual gaming reasons, I think that is entirely different than owning them for their supposed monetary value.

For example, Monsternomicon is a cool book for a gamer. Valueless to a reseller. I also even like the Book of Templates though I actually have grown to dislike the concept of templates (primarily because they were overused, like prestige classes.) There are a few setting resources like Hamunaptra or Testament that are worthwhile to use for inspiration (if one is bent that way) but do not really sell well -- I bought mine for $3.


Hamunaptra and Testament have both been available for a while on Paizo.com in the Green Ronin Apocalypse Sale for $5.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:14 pm 
 

TheHistorian wrote:Okay, but is it really as across the board as that?  Are you really recommending ALL Necromancer, AEG, DCCs, etc?

Not impossible, of course, just a little hard to believe.  ;)


I am posting during lunch at work, so I got cut off before I could give more detail.

In the case of Necromancer Games, yes, I am recommending the entire catalog.  And Frog God Games as well.

AEG:  Buy World's Largest Dungeon and shop their brochure-sized adventures.

Goodman:  Dungeon Crawl Classics is hard to beat.  Also, go on Paizo.com to the Goodman Apocalypse Sale and buy the Judges Guild D20 re-makes there...currently being sold for basically the price of shipping.

Troll Lord Games:  Lost City of Gaxmoor and Castle Zagyg, Upper Works  Also, buy Hall of Many Panes while it is still cheap.

Paizo:  Buy the Pathfinder RPG book.  See if you want the modules.  I currently play Pathfinder.

Privateer Press:  Five Fingers, Port of Deceit is not bad.  Also the Witchblade trilogy in hardback currently being sold on their website for $5.

Green Ronin:  The Freeport modules and the Mythic Vistas line.  I especially like The Black Company hardback.  

Atlas Games:  You probably won't play it, but the two hardbacks in their North American colonial D20 setting are fair to brilliant...so is their African Nyambe hardback.  These are still around for cheap.  Check out Paizo.com

Mongoose:  The Drow War trilogy.  Also, people who did not buy up the D20 Conan RPG books will cry later that they missed it.

There is lots more to list.  Those are the stars I can think of right now.

This is the gold rush for D20 bargains.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:14 pm 
 

I agree with all of Form Critics list.
No surprise there...

Nice to see someone else other than me enjoyed the Mongoose Drow Trilogy.
I found that #3 was playing hard to get for me, but well worth the search.
And they came cheap too...


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:13 pm 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:Nice to see someone else other than me enjoyed the Mongoose Drow Trilogy.


I believe I have written a review about the Mongoose Drow War Trilogy as well.  

It should be earlier in this very thread.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:25 pm 
 

I have to throw a vote in for the Midnight setting by Fantasy Flight.  Seems a few others have already done so here:

viewtopic.php?t=7994&highlight=midnight

The sourcebooks are great reads and the adventures are of the epic variety.

Ptolus is fantastic.  Years worth of campaign material in there.

I consider some of the Kingdoms of Kalamar stuff to be pretty good as well.  The Lost Tomb of Kruk-Ma-Kali was well done IIRC.

I also agree that a lot of the Necromancer stuff is top notch.  Particularly The Tomb of Abysthor.

Queen of Lies by Fiery Dragon Press (written by Monte Cook and later adapted for the Ptolus setting) is also a good read.

And as Badmike already mentioned, The Gryphon's Legacy is also very good.

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Aren't we all.  :)


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:43 pm 
 

Praise is given to the Kalamar Campaign setting.

We've used it for a few years now for our 3.5 setting.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:02 am 
 

Excellent!  Thanks for all the ideas, everyone.

I guess the followup question is how about d20/3.0/3.5 material from WOTC?  I don't really see that stuff mentioned... ever.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:26 am 
 

TheHistorian wrote:Excellent!  Thanks for all the ideas, everyone.

I guess the followup question is how about d20/3.0/3.5 material from WOTC?  I don't really see that stuff mentioned... ever.


The core rules books for 3.5 from WOTC are fine.
A great majority of the rest of the garbage WOTC produced during the 3.x/D20 period are what is sometimes called SPLAT BOOKS.

Not all of it, but most of it.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:57 am 
 

TheHistorian wrote:Excellent!  Thanks for all the ideas, everyone.

I guess the followup question is how about d20/3.0/3.5 material from WOTC?  I don't really see that stuff mentioned... ever.


What I like (what I still use):

Spell Compendium
Magic Item Compendium

Complete Warrior / Divine / Arcane / Mage


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