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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:46 pm

lawrenson wrote:isnt there 2 versions of this?

One was an official product, then wotc told them to pull it (sic) and they re-published.

To the best of my knowledge this was the product that prompted WotC to insert a decency clause into the OGL. A 30-ish page preview edition was released bearing the d20 logo. WotC apparently took one look at it and said no way. The actual hardback release from Valar Project was strictly OGL and did NOT have the d20 logo. It was later reprinted by White Wolf who I suppose had nothing better to do at the time. For a book about sex it is, in fact, NOT sexy at all. I'll stick with Phil & Dixie, thanks.

From a collector's standpoint I think the d20 preview is slightly difficult to find. Pretty sure that both of the hardback editions are plentiful.

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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:28 pm

FormCritic wrote:I was planning to collect this book just because, you know, someone printed it.

After reading a PDF of the product I decided that I don't want it.

I found the book a bit repulsive. It's a book about sex and D&D, but it ain't particularly sexy.

I don't want my kids going through my game collection years from now and asking, "Why did dad have this in his collection?"

It just might be collectible. Future generations might find it really cool.

Good luck with that.

Exactly that.. I found it, thought I'd have a look and just found it all rather odd. Just curious as to whether D20 had gone down this route particularly or if it was a random item?

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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:37 pm

I would describe it as an outlier in D20 materials. Do not waste your time.

The publication in question is well outside the norm of D20 material and...well...pretty much sucks. It sucks...in a bad way.

I cannot picture anyone using the game rules provided. They are counter-productive and often just plain grotesque.

The game value of this publication cannot be charted...it is nil, nothing, nada, non-extant, none less possible, zero, squat, bupkis.

(I hesitate to encourage the writers of that book by using terms like "squat" or "bupkis" because they are probably used there as technical terms.)

I'm trying to think of something slightly more contemptuous to say about The Book of Erotic Fantasy, but it would require coining a new term in the English language that combines "boring-gross-stupid-vapid-unpleasant-yucky-and disappointingly not titilating."

I therefore propose the new term: consubstenchblech

Yup, that's what it smells like....consubstenchblech.

Collect it if you want. PeeeeYuuuu! :pukel:

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:44 am

Yes. It looks like a pretty stupid book. I recall there were some humorous D&D 'sex' rules floating around as a document years ago. They were quite funny as it was light-hearted and tongue in cheek. i.e. had tables for diseases your drunken NPC halfling could catch in seedy inns and so forth.

That book is awful and takes itself far too seriously. I certainly won't be buying it.

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:37 am

Well thats cool, nice to know it wasn't main stream.
I stumbled across whilst searching for some fantasy art books, but that wasn't what I was looking for!

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:51 am

It was fairly mainstream, in that copies of the book made it into all kinds of places, like game stores and the like, which was no small talent at the time, when the bubble was bursting and "small press vanities" were being absorbed into the no more locus of non-existence.

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:11 am

Does anyone think that any of the Sinister Adventures books will be worth collecting, particularly the Razor Coast book, which has been eagerly awaited? Note that the latter will be in two versions, OGL and PathfinderRPG, but it's also print-on-demand, which might affect future values.

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:18 am

ashmire13 wrote:Well thats cool, nice to know it wasn't main stream.
I stumbled across whilst searching for some fantasy art books, but that wasn't what I was looking for!

I love fantasy art as well and have a small but growing collection. If I'd come across the book in a bargain sale, I probably would have bought it too! It's interesting subject matter, but on skimming it, I can't help but think they could have made a much more fun, ie. humorous book. It seems so serious - I mean who wants a page with a colour plate of adult toys

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:22 am

HermitFromPluto wrote:
I love fantasy art as well and have a small but growing collection. If I'd come across the book in a bargain sale, I probably would have bought it too! It's interesting subject matter, but on skimming it, I can't help but think they could have made a much more fun, ie. humorous book. It seems so serious - I mean who wants a page with a colour plate of adult toys

Or "in game" statistics for said "adult toys..."

Having to DM a player "roleplaying" use of materials from this book would be uncomfortable to say the least!

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:33 am

I could see that it may have legs with regards race inter-breeding, diseases etc, but the apparent seriousness and depth involved as well as some of the content does push the limits somewhat. :lol:

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:16 am

FormCritic wrote:
Excellent!

It was a prize stash of modules.

I went back and got R1 & R2 off of Ebay...got the full set R1-3 for $23

all in real nice condition.

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:36 pm

carrejo wrote:
I went back and got R1 & R2 off of Ebay...got the full set R1-3 for $23
all in real nice condition.

Nice work. The Rappan Athuk modules R1 and R2 are out there for cheap right now, but just wait.....

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:37 pm

FormCritic wrote:
Nice work. The Rappan Athuk modules R1 and R2 are out there for cheap right now, but just wait.....

I'd pick up the R2's that are under $10 right now. Then later the R1's but they are particularly easy to come by.

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:52 am

so (jumping back a bit) would anyone have the R1 R2 (not inc R3 probably due to cost) up for sale before I go in via AmazonUK at the moment.

Found a used R1 for £7ish inc shipping which doesn't sound so bad...

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:43 am

I have an extra R1 but not an R2 - would have to check the local game stores to see if there is still a copy floating around.

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:21 pm

ashmire13 wrote:so (jumping back a bit) would anyone have the R1 R2 (not inc R3 probably due to cost) up for sale before I go in via AmazonUK at the moment.

Found a used R1 for £7ish inc shipping which doesn't sound so bad...

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Dave

That doesn't sound like a particularly good deal. Isn't that something like $13?

I have seen them online lately for as little as $1...but that might be a problem for a UK purchaser.

I assume you've looked about a bit?

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:25 pm

FormCritic wrote:
That doesn't sound like a particularly good deal. Isn't that something like $13?

I have seen them online lately for as little as $1...but that might be a problem for a UK purchaser.

I assume you've looked about a bit?

there are a bunch of R2s being sold on Amazon now for cheap prices, not sure if they ship to UK...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... 997&sr=8-1

EDIT: I also found a bunch of R1s on Amazon for extremely cheap prices...

http://www.amazon.com/Rappan-Athuk-Dung ... 1588461564

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:24 pm

Note that as soon as people snap these up the price will also go up.

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