mbassoc2003 wrote:Three print runs total that I know of at present....1st printing with incorrect numbering rushed out for GenCon (about 60 copies)2 different versions of the 2nd Printing. Corrected numbering on the maps. Between the two '2nd printings' there appears to be no difference at all in the content that I can decern. However, there is about a quarter inch difference in the height between the two, and a difference in the colour saturation tone of the blue in the map. Clearly this is not a difference just in the map cover though, as the books also differ in height. Presumably Goodman games ordered X quantity from the printer and to fulfil the order, the printer used two separate machines with differenced in the cut height and the colour calibration between the two presses. As both the '2nd printings' come from very reputable sources, there is no doubt of their authenticity. But also no way of saying which copy preceeds which other without GG commenting on the difference.
bombadil wrote:One of those rare instances of dumb luck on my part.
Blackmoor wrote:Wow, how do you figure something like this out? Did you talk with the Goodman games folks?
Mars wrote:If I recall correctly (I think it is posted in the Goodman Games forum somewhere), when the 2nd printing was received from the printer a number of copies were damaged. Consequently, more needed to be printed and some orders where shipped out later.
mbassoc2003 wrote:As regards the ones you have, Shane, if they received your package returned undelivered, it's possible they shipped them back to you? Can you be sure you have 2nd Beta Printings and not 2nd Alpha Printings?
Plaag wrote:No, they never sent it..the response I got was that there was a problem with a portion of them and that is why some got theres yet others had to wait a bit longer.As for height, my 2nd is 12 inchesShaneG.
mbassoc2003 wrote:You mean 11" high?I have 1 copy 11" high that I got from Mike. My other copes are 11 1/4" high. The bottom yellow border is taller.So that would make the 11 1/4" copies 2nd Alphas and the 11" copies 2nd Betas? The problem is there is no accurate way to prove that? Mike, did you get your 2nd printings late in the order process?AdderMcOne, at 282mm, that places your copy exactly half way between the two 2nd printings I have. If your height is correct at 11 1/8" then we now have a third 2nd printing variation. Can you confirm this?If this is truely the case, I think we have to accept that with modern print on demand there can be wide differences in just a single print run without any distinction between the printings. For all we know there could be a fourth and fifth 2nd printing all with different heights, widths and colouring tone.
Badmike wrote:I have four copies....all are 11 high except for one that is 11 1/4. All were bought at the same time from Goodman! I bought them very early in the ordering stage. Weird.Mike B.
mbassoc2003 wrote:I have 25 copies at 11 1/4" and 1 copy at 11". I doubt we cal assign Alpha status with any real accuracy. My initial presumption was that the 11" copy was the Alpha have bought my larger copies as soon as NKG listed their stock (I bet they won't make that mistake again). I presumed NKG had the most recent stock, hense my fears at the time that a third printing had occured and not been disclosed.But Shane's testement conflicts and your order was mixed. Is there a difference in the blue tones of the maps within the bifold between your two different height copies?
Badmike wrote:No difference in any blue tones. Is there one between the one you got from me and the others you purchased? Ian, on further examination, the taller one is NOT 11 1/4, but maybe 11 1/8. The oddball one is just barely taller than the other three. Perhaps just some minor printing variation???Mike B.