HermitFromPluto wrote:I loved the movie. I thought it was a visual masterpiece. It is amazing how far 3D technology has come.

I know Cameron tends to be stereotypical and a little cliche with his characterizations, however, humans behaved like that during much of the colonial era and having been on the front line of pristine forest destruction in Papua New Guinea and seen how the local populations can be abused and people can be utterly insensitive as long as they make a buck - I don't think fables with exaggerated environmental themes can do us any harm.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you (and Cameron's message) 100%, or at least 85%. I just think he could have incorporated the message a little more subtly. As a piece of cinematic art it's unparalleled, but as a morality play I have to give it a B-.

I'd love to see the same technology applied to doing an actual Skyrealms of Jorune movie (yeah, right).

HermitFromPluto wrote:Yes. I agree with your assessment.

Man, if I had the bucks, I would be tempted to make an offer on the rights to Jorune and develop the next edition. I know there have been a number of fan attempts to do this, but what it really needs is a fleshing out of the world. Imagine a series of Harn-type campaign resources slowly mapping out Jorune, its denizens and people . Add to that some classic feel modules and you'd have a real winner.  

I dunno if I'm with you on that.

I have the 2nd (with the 8-87 supplement) and 3rd editions of the game, and I've heard stories about 1st, and it seems to me that all the setting needs is a single edition that does the following:

1) Presents the rules in a coherent fashion, unmangled by rushed release dates, bad layout software, inept editorial efforts, or whatever else might be (in reality or legend) to blame for the infelicitous state in which both editions were published. I find both 2nd and 3rd quite playable, as long as you're willing to wade through the errata and reconstruct a coherent picture of the rules (whether in your mind or on paper). At it's core, the skill system is elegant and the combat intuitive, but you'd never know it from a casual reading.

2) Collates the reams of glossary and concordance material into a usable format. The Sholari Pack has something like 35 pages of alphabetized entries covering almost every conceivable aspect of Jorune culture, but it's extremely difficult to form a coherent picture without serious study. I'd go with a presentation similar to 2nd edition (split the stuff into different books), but then include a gazetteer type book in addition which goes through the terminology systematically (a section for botany and perhaps limilates too, a section on zoology, a section on cultural practices, a section on economic concepts, etc.).

My point I guess is that the Harn-level detail is already there, for the most part. It just needs an organized presentation. Of course I'd be happy to see more in the way of resources like the Sobayid Atlas and the Gire of Sillipus for every region (Volligire, Temauntro, Khodre, Dobre, and Lundere, at least).

I wonder what the current situation is with the rights. Does Chessex own it whole hog, or just the rights to 3rd edition? Do the Lekers/Kalishes or M. Teves own the rights?

Just my two yules.

HermitFromPluto wrote:Yes. Again, I agree on most points - and it was your last point on more resources that I was trying to make. People often malign D&D because of its multitude of supplements, but that it was makes it a winner. To simply create more detailed supplements for every region and then a series of adventures, would greatly add to the appeal of the game. I'm with you on the first two points entirely.

I remember reading once that Chessex had some agreement with Lekers / Teves on the third edition, but the original authors retained some rights. I doubt it made any money for Chessex as they were selling the supplements for years (probably still are).

Yes, I just checked and they are still available:

http://www.chessex.com/Games/Games2.htm

Yeah, sorry for the confusion. I guess I came around to your point of view while writing my post . I'm new to Jorune, though very enthusiastic, so I'm still working through my thoughts about it.

I bought all of the third edition books recently from "gameabundance" on eBay, which appears to be Chessex's eBay account (at least the seller had a chessex.com e-mail address). They still have the 3rd edition value pack for $50 BiN. This was also the seller who put up the auction for the 2nd edition mailorder poster, which was my best or at least favorite acquisition of 2009, aside from maybe the Outdoor Geomorphs. I keep hoping they'll sell off more old SoJ mailorder-only things.

Unfortunately I do not, never having seen a copy of the preleases of Shanthas or Iscin Races. But congrats on the great find!

Which fanzines?

Hiya,

thanks for that strato.

The fanzines I have are:
Sarceen's Knowledge
Sholari
Bokelby's Folly
Journal of the Tansoor Historical Society

Was a good lot actually - the first 8 issues of warpstone, and an almost complete collection of Kult, amongst the 48 boxes of books

Cheers,
Malc

Thought I would bump this thread with my completed Wiki Jorune page as well. Not sure if everyone reads the "The Acaeum Distributed Computing Project" thread where I post about the Wiki.

All core rules editions now up:

http://wiki.acaeum.com/wiki/SkyRealms_of_Jorune
http://wiki.acaeum.com/wiki/Gallery:SkyRealms_of_Jorune

Can't help I'm afraid but thanks for posting, I love hearing about obscure rares that I'll never see  Good luck in your search Grolm, and welcome!

Welcome to the boards Alexander;)

Brette:)

The_Grolm wrote in Skyrealms of Jorune:I let you know when I find an item of These I am searching for. I am well aware that it will take a lot of time to collect some of these. But I have learned to be patience over the past years.  :D

Greetings, too!

From your list, Earth-Tec does come up more frequently than the others on eBay and patience certainly should work in that case to acquire a copy within your budget, if you draw a blank here. (Although I'd be hopeful someone will have spares, or is tempted to sell )

Do you have/are you collecting all the other "extras", too, such as the mask, t-shirt, poster (noted on the other thread), etc.