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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:50 pm 
 

Its really frusterating trying to find d&d items on ebay when it seems half the search pages are cluttered with all those silly platic 3rd edition miniatures.. heroclix or whatever they are called. I mean come on what kind of person actually buys and collects that silly crap? Children? I mean the old lead ralpartha / citadel / grenadier minis were crafted pieces of art. But these new mass marketed crap is stupid and its time consuming to wade thru the ebay listing pages when your looking for books or modules. Anyone else feel the same way? Or do you enjoy playing with your lil platic toys.

  


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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:53 pm 
 

I think most of us agree with you on this one.  There was a thread about this very issue a few months back, but I can't find it now...

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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:04 pm 
 

RedBeard wrote: I mean come on what kind of person actually buys and collects that silly crap? Children?

Uh, THIS kind of person has bought quite a few of them. :? I just don't bring them up much here, for obvious reasons.

They are not nearly as bad as you seem to think — in fact, I doubt you've ever even bothered to look at them. Your rant has that sort of "blanket statement" feel to it.

As far as eBay searches go, how about taking 45 seconds to modify your search terms? Or 90 seconds to download Auction Sieve? There's also some ideas in this thread.

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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:20 pm 
 

err. sorry didnt mean to offend anybody.. :)

  


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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:53 pm 
 

Seriously, Auction Sieve is worth a look. The "trash word" concept is perfect for D&D minis because the program can trash as many terms as you want. So, for example, to avoid D&D minis, you list trash words like:

Aberrations
Deathknell
Angelfire
Giants of Legend
(etc., etc.)

These are all D&D minis terms that are not, at the same time, D&D 1e terms, so the 1e stuff you're really looking for is not filtered out.

And my favorite part is that the program is given away for free by an Acaeum member. :)

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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:11 pm 
 

One of my best kept secrets *sigh*

I have been buying them as well

Dam collecting creep :cry:

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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:17 pm 
 

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RedBeard wrote: I mean come on what kind of person actually buys and collects that silly crap? Children?

Uh, THIS kind of person has bought quite a few of them. :? I just don't bring them up much here, for obvious reasons.

They are not nearly as bad as you seem to think — in fact, I doubt you've ever even bothered to look at them. Your rant has that sort of "blanket statement" feel to it.

As far as eBay searches go, how about taking 45 seconds to modify your search terms? Or 90 seconds to download Auction Sieve? There's also some ideas in this thread.

Oh, and welcome to The Acaeum. :?


I have bought one fair size lot and got taken on the last lot I bought. I agree that they are not as bad they are made out to be. I won't say they are as good as the metal miniatures but they are much more available and in most cases dirt cheap except for the larger and rarer items.


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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:43 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:One of my best kept secrets *sigh*

I have been buying them as well

Dam collecting creep :cry:

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Blackmoor, no, not you!   :wink:

I don't do any plastic for the simple reason that they just don't feel right with all the old metal minis, and the paint jobs are frankly unimpressive and uninspiring, though certainly functional.  
On the other hand, I can see people using them if they are new to miniatures, and they certainly seem to have been profitable for WotC.  
In any case, I can't imagine gaming without miniatures, they add such a great, classic element to the D&D experience in addition to resolving the age old question of who was standing where when the fireball was released.  For the latter functionality, metal or plastic will do just fine.

  

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Post Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:05 pm 
 

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Blackmoor wrote:One of my best kept secrets *sigh*

I have been buying them as well

Dam collecting creep :cry:

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Blackmoor, no, not you!   :wink:



I keep them far away from my wife :)
Alas the paintjobs really do suck and trust me I do not take these items seriously.  They are crap and probably just a fad.  You should see some of the ridiculaous monsters they are putting out now!  Anybody for an enlarged Durgar.  I store them very carefully, all mixed together in a cradboard box :lol:
I will probably fish out the sets and rares very soon and sell them off though!  Just think of this; I just bought 2 boxes of the new Wardrums set for $85.00 each!  For that price I could have come close to winning that recent Beastmaker Mountain Mod that was up on Ebay.  The wardrums set has very few usable minis; the chimera and a dragon are two I can remember.
All our PCs and NPCs are unique and hand painted by a very good painter that we have around :D   She has also painted a few hundred monsters as well 8O
These minis are like the plague, they infest and take over 8O
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Post Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:50 am 
 

well for the first time ever i am gonna download a program to use with ebay. as its made by nev, i will give it a bash as yeah i am fed up of things in my searches that i dont want nothing of (ie miniatures).



thx for the pointer...i was gonna look at this a while back and totally forgot.



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Post Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:42 am 
 

Beyond some of the obvious trash words — "miniatures," etc. — here's a list of terms you'll want to add to Auction Sieve to avoid D&D minis:

Harbinger
Dragoneye
Archfiends
Giants of Legend
Aberrations
Deathknell
Angelfire
War Drums
War of the Dragon Queen

These are the names of the various sets; obviously, sellers who are keyword-aware are throwing these terms in whenever possible.

The set called "Underdark" cannot be trash-word listed unless you're certain you're okay with missing other Underdark items.

Finally, be wary of spelling errors. Aberrations, for instance, is spelled at least five different ways ... to be thorough, you'll have to trash-word all five spellings.

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Post Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:53 am 
 

Now, having said all that, I'll add that anyone who wants to open their mind up a little and give this line of minis an honest try will probably be pleasantly surprised. And to give Wizards some credit, they have thrown in some classic 1e figures every so often (Lareth the Beautiful, King Snurre, Mordenkainen, etc.).

And tell me this isn't a pretty sweet Black Dragon, especially considering your priming and painting time will be exactly zero:

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Post Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:49 am 
 

I noticed that Black Dragon before and it is a nice looking piece.  And the nod to 1st Ed. iconic figures such as Snurre and Lareth is a nice touch.  
But the annoying part of the product is three-fold:
1) They're plastic.  Ick... There's little substance and detail to a plastic sculpt and they tend to fall down with a mild shake to a table.  
2) The paint jobs are cookie-cutter and subpar for the most part, especially the early ones.
And most importantly, 3) What's up with making these "collectible"?  Magic was a fun game except for the money pit it became trying to chase down rares to make a new and interesting deck.  The marketing virus of making all these new games collectible is vexing and I refuse to support such a blatantly cynical grab for more money.  

On the other hand, they are cheaper than metal and already come prepainted and ready to use, so they're great for newcomers who want the great miniature experience with their D&D game.

  

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Post Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 11:19 am 
 

RedBeard wrote: I mean come on what kind of person actually buys and collects that silly crap? Children?


Exactly  :!:  :!:  My kids love these and honestly I am glad, not only does it make my wife happy because the're not metal, which means nothing sharp for there little sister to get a hold of, but damn I couldn't find the time to paint any more minis than I do and with 8-10 year olds paint jobs don't last to long    :wink:

I personally have been given about 50 or so of these for Xmas/Bdays etc from people who know I play D&D but don't know what to buy me, I have given them mostly to my kids but I did hold on to the Red Dragons I got from the GoL series as they are pretty cool looking :)

  
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