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Post Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:30 am 
 

I won this lot of books yesterday. Anyone know what the Player's Tome of Creation is? I couldn't find it in Heroic Worlds.







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Post Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:02 pm 
 

don't know, but it may be a self made thing, have to tell us all when you get it;)



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Post Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:03 pm 
 

Yeah, I guess no one recognizes it . . . I'll post again once it arrives.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:29 pm 
 

It might be post '92 nonTSR. Looking forward to hearing bout it.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:33 pm 
 

Definitely looks home brewish to me. ALmost like a single subject notebook with some stenciling done.


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:02 am 
 

FWIW, that kind of plastic spiral binding vs. the old combed binding seems newer vs. older.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:30 pm 
 

Wow! I received the Player's Tome of Creation today. It is the most elaborate and involved "homemade" RPG item I have ever seen. It consists of over 108 pages that have been "semi-professionally" printed out. Most of the typeset is caligraphy and there are numerous charts, tables and even a few pics.

The book has no date on it, though the author does sign his name on the Preface page: James M Marshall II. He states that this is the first book of an RPG game he has created. I have only scanned it so far, but it a fantasy RPG with many elements taken from D&D (as you might imagine).

I took a bunch of pics in case anyone is interested. Pretty cool!

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:20 pm 
 

Looks like a nice find. Does it have any indication of a publication date?


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:44 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Looks like a nice find. Does it have any indication of a publication date?


None that I can see (thus far . . . )


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:26 pm 
 

Homemade, ergo no publication date.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:13 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Homemade, ergo no publication date.

I don't know how stringent D&D publishers are about these things, but the general layout screams "desktop publishing in some guys basement" to me.  I doubt it was published in the current draft.  Perhaps he took his work and had it professionally printed & bound, though.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:36 pm 
 

so paul how much do you want for it? assuming you are looking to sell it......

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:21 pm 
 

It does look desktop probably circa 1990's. Looks like other zines and items from that period. It is certainly a very nicely realized homebrew item but keep in mind nearly 50% of all nonTSR could be called 'homebrew' under those standards.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:04 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:so paul how much do you want for it? assuming you are looking to sell it......

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I am sure I will sell it .  . .  no idea what to ask for it though.  I will probably just start the auction at 99 cents and see what happens.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:09 am 
 

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killjoy32 wrote:so paul how much do you want for it? assuming you are looking to sell it......

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I am sure I will sell it . . . no idea what to ask for it though. I will probably just start the auction at 99 cents and see what happens.

Now that's a great idea. :D


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:31 am 
 

i can feel a fight coming on with ian already :D



  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:45 am 
 

A pretty nice amateur publication.  I wonder how many of them he made?     :?

    There are probably several dozen or so copies sitting in the closets of his gaming buddies.    :lol:

    I like the erstz-eldritch type fonts...but I usually curse when I find a new purchase has been printed in some silly, impossible to read font.   :x

    Anyone do a web search on the author?   :?

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:31 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:I like the erstz-eldritch type fonts...

Looks pretty much like standard Apple Mac fonts to me; as does the clip art. ;)

MShipley88 wrote:but I usually curse when I find a new purchase has been printed in some silly, impossible to read font.

Or else a full dozen mixed together on the same page... So very tempting... :P

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@ Adam; the only things that would stop me from thinking earlier are the green underprint on the "Acknowledgment" and (possibly) the "ten years" quote.

@ Allan; yep, is more like a Uni repro department style binding from more recent times, but spiral binding (a/o comb binding) goes a long way back even though it was more used for notebooks and suchlike then (as noted by Brian), rather than amateur RPG productions :)

@ BTB; if you tell me it's a great piece of work and enthalling reading, I'll take your word for it. What I can see (and the general layout, etc.) doesn't look particularly promising, IMHO!

(roll some "(D-6's)" "and if you make it this far, you can start to play the Game". *g* hardly looks like C&S chargen to me ^^)

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:32 am 
 

Yeah, maybe I'll take it with me when we go down to Pennsylvania for Christmas.  I tend to think that the author had hopes of getting it professionally published . . . the lack of price or even his name (which was only handwritten) doesn't seem to indicate it was a "final" product.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:28 am 
 

Where in PA are you heading for the holidays, Paul?


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