Blackmoor wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:muaddib5 wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:I got mine for a steal then!!! :lol:I sold one of these for $100 or so just a few months ago. it was not mint though and had a coffee stain on some of the pages
muaddib5 wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:I got mine for a steal then!!! :lol:
muaddib5 wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Blackmoor wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:I sold one of these for $100 or so just a few months ago. it was not mint though and had a coffee stain on some of the pagesI paid a bit more for my copy. But way south of the $850-$1,000 price tag. I originally bought two at the Gen Con they premiered at. Ended up selling both and never thought I'd find a replacement.
Blackmoor wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:I sold one of these for $100 or so just a few months ago. it was not mint though and had a coffee stain on some of the pages
SimperingToad wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Not sure if this should be in the Silliest thread or not really. More of a thought exercise.Even if it is a very rare item, would you pay this much for a mini that shows obvious signs of lead rot?** eBay auction listing blocked. Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **
Mister Yuk wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:If you don't mind SimperingToad, could you point out what pieces you're saying have lead rot, I'd like to learn more about it since I'm a new collector of minis.
benjoshua wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Mister Yuk wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:If you don't mind SimperingToad, could you point out what pieces you're saying have lead rot, I'd like to learn more about it since I'm a new collector of minis.Lead rot is to lead what rust is to iron. Iron rust looks like orange-brown flakes; lead rot looks like grey powder. Both involve oxidation of the metal. Both rust and lead rot damage the finer details first. Looking at the images, it appears that multiple pieces of the miniature are affected by lead rot. These are not easily repaired. The main difference between lead rot and rust is that, while rust can give you tetanus through an open wound, lead rot can result in lead poisoning if "ingested." Lead rot powder easily transfers to the skin, and then if the powder is then rubbed on the nose or lips, it can be ingested. The best way to prevent lead rot is by thoroughly painting all your miniatures containing lead, including the bottom of the base. At a minimum, coat miniatures with a protective coating, like a primer or Dulcote. The higher the humidity, the more likely a miniature will succumb to lead rot.And this is another reason why metal miniatures are not ideal for gaming or collecting. And this comes from someone with a large metal minis collection. The Bones line of minis from Reaper are the future in my opinion. 8)
Mister Yuk wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:So all of the dull gray on the various pieces, some just in parts of it and others the whole piece are the rot you are speaking of? I was wondering if some of the pieces weren't just primered in gray. This is very good to know.
benjoshua wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:While I can't tell for sure just from a photograph, the darker gray areas are what I suspect show lead rot. It appears that ridges show the darker grays, and the recessed areas are more often lighter gray in color. You can also notice some spotting of darker gray areas just like rust often shows up as spots on iron. The color variations on these mini parts does not appear to be from primer. Early primer was often white, but not necessarily white.Many early minis had excessive flash, obvious mold lines and other problems, including places where the metal content was not consistent. In other words, miniature companies mixed various metals together, including lead, to create their their miniatures, and the metal didn't always mix or settle consistently. The science improved as demand and production increased. This is one reason why lead rot shows up quicker on some places that others since the lead content sometimes varies from place to place.
Mister Yuk wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Some of them are quite tarnished but don't seem to be flaking.
benjoshua wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Mister Yuk wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Some of them are quite tarnished but don't seem to be flaking.Remember, they won't flake, they'll powder. It may feel like they are dusty. And even if they aren't leaving powder in your hands, make sure you don't touch your face while handling them and wash your hands when you are done.
Deadlord wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Anyways, if you really want to avoid lead use those hand condoms people typically use for dishes and whatnot. Lead can easily get in through a skin break, and hands are the most often injured portion of the body. I use the ones that come in a box with about a hundred, they're really cheap and worth using.
MadCatUSA wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Deadlord wrote in Silliest non-TSR auction price:Anyways, if you really want to avoid lead use those hand condoms people typically use for dishes and whatnot. Lead can easily get in through a skin break, and hands are the most often injured portion of the body. I use the ones that come in a box with about a hundred, they're really cheap and worth using.Or, if you are as fortunate as I am, and happen to work in the medical field, swipe some exam gloves and use those... :roll: 8O :lol: