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Post Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:07 pm 
 

Assuredly rare, but I still thought this was waaaaaay too much:



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By way of comparison, I bought a regular 1st print set in December, in nicer shape, with the original dice, for about $80.  So that's about a $400 signature tonight.


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Post Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:32 pm 
 

TheHistorian wrote:Assuredly rare, but I still thought this was waaaaaay too much:

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By way of comparison, I bought a regular 1st print set in December, in nicer shape, with the original dice, for about $80.  So that's about a $400 signature tonight.




I've bought and sold a few of these now and this price is about $100 down on the norm, the last four all went for over $500. I agree, the exclusivity does tend to raise the price well beyond the regular ten-a-penny standard boxes, I guess somebody wanted to complete their collection. Good luck to them, hope they enjoy it. Some call it silly, others call it supply and demand.

  

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Post Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:35 pm 
 

Surprising that only five have been accounted for: probably a factor in that markup, for the time being.

Some people might pay as much for a sheet of plastic wrapped around the 1st print as you paid for the box itself, so it's best not to be looking too close for logic in pricing. Signatures and dustwrappers on "modern 1st edition" books have many examples more extreme than the above, so perhaps it's not unexpected that /some/ RPG items follow suit.


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:56 am 
 

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I've bought and sold a few of these now and this price is about $100 down on the norm, the last four all went for over $500. I agree, the exclusivity does tend to raise the price well beyond the regular ten-a-penny standard boxes, I guess somebody wanted to complete their collection. Good luck to them, hope they enjoy it. Some call it silly, others call it supply and demand.


Any idea how often these come up ? It was the first one I saw on ebay and would have loved to have this in the collection but came in second unfortunately.

  

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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:03 am 
 

The only one I have seen during the last 3-4 years IIRC. I was astonished by the price. The last one I remember sold for 120-130£, long time ago...  (so I was rather confident with my 136£ bid :( )
The sole 1st ed. boxed set that I remember going for over $400 is the 1st 1st print ever made, sold 3 years ago (more?).


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:07 am 
 

One would think for such a rare and expensive item the seller could manage to post a picture that did not make your eyes water looking at it.

Though I suppose given the theme of the game it somehow... fits.


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:15 am 
 

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Any idea how often these come up ? It was the first one I saw on ebay and would have loved to have this in the collection but came in second unfortunately.


I've seen 4 over the last 4 years, not evenly spaced. However I haven't been actively looking for them for about 2 years so maybe the rate is closer to 2 a year (wild guess). Most are tucked away in collections forever I suppose. I have another one in much better condition to auction shortly.

  


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:18 am 
 

lokiwookie wrote:The only one I have seen during the last 3-4 years IIRC. I was astonished by the price. The last one I remember sold for 120-130£, long time ago...  (so I was rather confident with my 136£ bid :( )
The sole 1st ed. boxed set that I remember going for over $400 is the 1st 1st print ever made, sold 3 years ago (more?).


Last 3 prices were all just shy of $600, 2 in 2007 and 1 in 2008. £120-£130 would have been a steal, I'm surprised I missed that one.

Shame this conversation is taking place in the Silly Auctions thread, considering this is a genuine collectible.

  


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:21 am 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:One would think for such a rare and expensive item the seller could manage to post a picture that did not make your eyes water looking at it.

Though I suppose given the theme of the game it somehow... fits.


Best I could do with a crappy camera which had the shutter button in a ridiculous position, in adverse lighting and with no steadying device. The main features were covered adequately I think.

  

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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:49 am 
 

Dont know what equivilant you might have for a superstore chain in the UK, but my palm sized digital camera was purchased about 5 years ago for under $100 at Walmart.
Of course after that much time it is obsolete now, but it still takes decent  pictures.
And it even has a closeup feature, though I have never been able to take close up pictures of Miniatures like most mini sellers on e-bay do.
They must have a better newer camera (surely)... with much better optics.

I think a similar camera to mine could be bought for much less now and would probably be better.

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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:57 am 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:Dont know what equivilant you might have for a superstore chain in the UK, but my palm sized digital camera was purchased about 5 years ago for under $100 at Walmart.
Of course after that much time it is obsolete now, but it still takes decent  pictures.
And it even has a closeup feature, though I have never been able to take close up pictures of Miniatures like most mini sellers on e-bay do.
They must have a better newer camera (surely)... with much better optics.

I think a similar camera to mine could be bought for much less now and would probably be better.

Just saying...


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:06 am 
 

Here in the UK we have Walmart too, but it's called Asda.Walmart. They sell cheap stuff to the lower socio-economic occupants in society, and can be hilarious if you like to see the types of freaks that bread at that end of the spectrum. It's one only store I know of where you can find shoppers in dressing gowns dragging their spawn around by the hair, or a drunk guy giving his bitch a slapping. They open '24 hours' here, but Asda.Walmart define '24 hour opening' as 'between '6am and Midnight'. That's because most of their clientelle cannot read or count anyways.

It seems that Walmart has a higher profile in the US. We have the same thing with stores called Brittish Home Stores and C&A, both of which are real cheap [email protected], but in Europe they are considered to be high class UK clothing.

I'm guessing things like Tommy Hilfiger, Gap and Calvin Clien are the other way round. We see then as being desirable prestigoius names over here. Are they the same in the US, or are they just everyday bog standard highstreet names in the US?

To be fair to Walmart, they aren't the bottom of the food chain in the UK. There is a chain called Lidl that is a bit worse. But only just.


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:12 am 
 

I have an old Sony camera I bought about six years ago, a DCS-T1, that I use. I also have a camer on my phone. Both I think are 5MP. They seem to be good for making big images for eBay. The trick is to use daylight from a window, make sure the camera focusses properly (sometimes you have to half press the butter button to get it to focus), and then post big photos on your listing. Buyers buy with more confidence if they can see clearly what they are buying.

Dull, blurred or cropped photos tend to indicate the seller either has no interest in the item they are selling (and therefor is unlikely to take care with packaging or protecting the item), or is trying to hide damage and will package badly to be able to pass off damage as postal damage. I avoid that type of seller because I can't trust them, or if I feel I have to bid, I bid low and let some onther sucker run the risk of getting into a dispute for poor goods.


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:32 am 
 

Dull, blurred or cropped photos tend to indicate the seller either has no interest in the item they are selling (and therefor is unlikely to take care with packaging or protecting the item), or is trying to hide damage and will package badly to be able to pass off damage as postal damage.




Well that's good to know MB, I'll bear it in mind as I go about my own business. Here's my ebay feedback, lots of comments about the packaging you can use to reinforce your incontrovertible points. My ambition is to provide packaging very much as good as your own (which is excellent). I was relieved when the several hundreds of pounds worth of items I bought from you arrived in great shape. Thank you for that.

  

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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:34 am 
 

mnw wrote:Last 3 prices were all just shy of $600, 2 in 2007 and 1 in 2008. £120-£130 would have been a steal, I'm surprised I missed that one.


I didn't remember how many years ago it was. Perhaps 3-4 years. More ... 5-6 year actually.. I can't remember, time is running too fast. Market price was very high for D&D related items but not for CoC. Insane prices were rather rare.
Or perhaps I found the only cheap DX box :)


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:35 am 
 

Here in the UK we have Walmart too, but it's called Asda.Walmart. They sell cheap stuff to the lower socio-economic occupants in society, and can be hilarious if you like to see the types of freaks that bread at that end of the spectrum. It's one only store I know of where you can find shoppers in dressing gowns dragging their spawn around by the hair, or a drunk guy giving his bitch a slapping. They open '24 hours' here, but Asda.Walmart define '24 hour opening' as 'between '6am and Midnight'. That's because most of their clientelle cannot read or count anyways.


LOL, those lower socio-economic types, what can you do with them? Thank God we are so superior.

  


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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:38 am 
 

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I didn't remember how many years ago it was. Perhaps 3-4 years. More ... 5-6 year actually.. I can't remember, time is running too fast. Market price was very high for D&D related items but not for CoC. Insane prices were rather rare.
Or perhaps I found the only cheap DX box :)


5-6 years would be outside the window I followed these things. It's reversed for me now, I can't get a penny for D&D stuff but CoC always sells well. Of course MERP sells even better and I've never quite figured out why. I'm not complaining though.

  

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Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:45 am 
 

mnw wrote:
I've bought and sold a few of these now and this price is about $100 down on the norm, the last four all went for over $500. I agree, the exclusivity does tend to raise the price well beyond the regular ten-a-penny standard boxes, I guess somebody wanted to complete their collection. Good luck to them, hope they enjoy it. Some call it silly, others call it supply and demand.


Don't get me wrong - congratulations to you!  (And I hope the buyer is happy as well)

*I* just think that's a crazy price.


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