I have always considered this item to be specifically for T&T. Let me know how you feel about that.

I know Bob Liddil did a bit of authoring for that company. When I say company that means like 1 or 2 people. So maybe it was all him?

Otherwise, these items are frustratingly rare.

Thanks for the offer of help.  Actually, I have Dimensions and Doors, along with two versions of Demons and Notmen.  I just wanted to get a sampling to find out just how rare these are.  Castles and Kingdoms came up once on eBay, and I have no idea what the Masterscribe's Guild Certificates are all about.  Given the depth of some of the collections here, someone's got to have the MGC or C&K.

I've seen the certificates up before, but they're not my style so I didn't bother with them.

Rider Fantasy Creations also released a few old computer adventure games.   As far as I remember, they were text adventure type games for the Commodore 64.  

Spider Mountain Adventure (1979) by Bob Liddil and Teri Li
Lost Dutchman

Welcome to the boards, Bob (?)

A blizzard, a car crash, a CB Radio and a copy of Tunnels and Trolls introduced me to tabletop publishing.

Ohio experienced a white-out blizzard in '77 so there was nothing to do much until it passed. A friend from CB Radio suggested we try out this new game he bought, T&T.

I was intrigued with what was the ancestor of "Interactive Fiction" and embraced it throughout the 3 day long campaign during which we all stayed at Jack's (the friend) house, which had a frieplace. Jack and Theresa were Mormons, which means prepared for anything - candles, popcorn, soda, zillions of dice and this whippin' great game.

On the 3rd day, just as Damian the Dangerous was about to recover a 4th level Kris, made of meteoric iron that repels magic, a car slid down jack's hill and crashed into the front of his house, damaging it severely and ending the game.

But the spark was lit in me an I went OCD on Fantasy fiction, D&D, T&T and within 3 months had written a generic module (Dimensions) on the generalities of the snow day campaign.

To this day - werewolves make the best sailors.

It was step one of a hundred thousand miles of conventions, and a thousand friends coast to coast.

Within 2 years (1979) I had an article (It Ain't Easy) published in Sorcerer's Apprentice and within 12 years had a short story published in DRAGON (The Blue Eyed Thief).

Now I am a member of SFWA (Science Fiction And Fantasy Writers of America), sat in a hotel room with Ben Bova and Isaac Asimov listening to advice on writing, and designed weapons for a Allen Steele novel (Labrynth of Night)

Don't take it as a brag - because the whole world is better than me - but I have been allowed a taste of success and for that I am grateful.

FormCritic wrote:How did the Rider Fantasy publishing come about?

It was a day spent with the legendary Louis Zocchi of Gamescience fame that inspired the company.

The name "Rider" was a take on a T&T character, a warrior named "Dark Rider" who was "questmate" to "Damien The Dangerous" and "Gadlin The Dwarf" in an early generic adventure called "The Search For Fezenclop's Tomb" played out over several months in southeastern Ohio 1977-8.

Most campaigns over the years have gone unchronicled, but our Ohio games and the Con Campaigns that followed in Michigan, Wisconsin, California, and New York among many; elements of these games found their way into different books, such as "Rascals, Rogues, Rapscallions and Renegades" which was a Rider production for Pandora, shortly after an intense weekend at UMASS Amherst, and an even more intense weekend a month later at SUNY Stonybrook.

Contact with legendary pros like Mike Stackpole and John Norman and Allen Steele never hurt. The stimulation was like brandy at AA. Very intense!

Rider was a conduit for my intense desire to "become" a writer. It never occurred to me that a Master's in English would have helped enormously.

The most difficult to write were the dice tables.

I've been trying to find a copy of Demons and Not Men for some time, as well. The others, I'm not so sure about (I have a preference for bestiaries,) but they are designed for T&T? Doesn't matter to me, as I like that game (have a second printing of it a friend picked up while visiting England - wish I could locate the original 1st edition, but nooooo...)


What's actually in D&NM?

I traded one of these a while back. i don't recall ever reading it, though.