So what is WW's Dragonlord going for these days and does anyone have it for sale?  I've been looking for it for almost 11 years (those WTB posts on rec.games.board/frp.marketplace back in 96-98 were mine).  I gave up a few years ago because I thought it was as hopeless as getting the original Kuntz' City of Brass/Castle of the Elemental Lords modules.  But a recent search on google turned up these  forums.

Deadlord's posting that he had an unpunchec copy made me weep with jealousy j/k.

Seriously, does it ever sell on ebay?  

Trevor

Alright, my copy of the Character Archaic just arrived and I have some questions.  I have a supicion that this may actually be a Frakenstein copy, but I want to confirm some details first.  First off let me say that its condition is much better than I had hoped for.  The water damage is very very minor and it is only an the very outside of the top corner.  I don't even think that it tecnically would classify as "damage" to be honest as it appear that only the very corner of the cover is noticeably affected.  The red ink has bled through to very edge of thecorners on the very ouside of the pages.  There is also some writing in it on about 8 pages, but 99% of it is in pencil and I might be able to effectively erase it.   I would give this copy a G+/VG condition if I were to sell it, far from the Poor that I expected to receive.

Anyway, now on to the details of this copy I just received.  My copy has 27 character sheets. 8 of them are light green, 3 are light yellow, and the remaining 16 are a darker yellow, very similar in color to the classic goldenrod color PC sheets that TSR produced like this:

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My copy also has 2 blank white sheets: 1 where the title page on a book would normally be and other one immediately after the character sheets end.  My copy does have the Dungeon Map, it has the Combat Matrix Reference sheet, and it has 2 sheets for the Character Roll Call.  One of the Character roll call sheets is labeled, however the other is not, its just a continuation of the character roll call grid.   So what do you all make of this? Do I have a Frankenstein CA or is perhaps a 2nd printing? I know that the 2nd printing was rumored to have a different cover color, buit has that even been confirmed.  Another possibility that could be I suppose is that whomever owned this origianlly purchased more sheets as was apparently available at the time as per the advertisement on the inside of the back cover directing you to mail your order directly to Pete.  Thoughts anyone?

dbartman wrote:The 2nd print is really nothing like the first.  I have not been able to confirm what all was included with the 2nd print, though I am reasonably confident that mine is compete.  The cover is a different color.  Here's the link to info on both:

The Character Archaic Print Sequence

Thanks Doug, I had forgotten about that thread.  I guess I should not be surprised that it seems like everyones copy seems to differ in 1 way or another being that it seems to be the running theme with Wee Warriors products.    I guess that I should also add that Dungeon Masters Kit  description has the last senacne blacked out as well.

Well, I've never seen any others, or even heard of them. It's actually a neat little game. You have to take it apart to use it, so intact ones are surely insanely rare.

tool wrote:Sorry to jump in here so late, but I just saw the thread...

As I recall, Dragonlord had an ad in the back which listed products not otherwise mentioned here - I believe one was a set of Lord of the Rings character cards.  It is possible this was a Cosmic Frog item as opposed to Wee Warriors (Dragonlord was from both WW and Cosmic Frog, if I am remembering what it said correctly - I should have scanned the bloody thing for reference purposes).  I know nothing about the Cosmic Frog company other than that it was mentioned in Dragonlord.

I should probably note here that since I sold my copy to Mike Kuo (Deadlord39 may have gotten his copy from Titan, but Mike didn't), this still just makes two known copies.  The one I had was not disassembled because it had originally been the Judges' Guild file copy.

Who did you get that one from, Tool?

Mark  

tool wrote:The one I had was not disassembled because it had originally been the Judges' Guild file copy.

I'm curious about this part: Judge's Guild file copy? Can you elaborate.

ShaneG.

IIRC, Mike told me he had just bought a Drag from Titan, and said they still had one, so I bought it. If so, he actually had 2. But it's probable that I just got it confused.

tdewey10 wrote:

Sigh. I bought my copy back in '77 or so in Princeton, N.J. when I was 10.  Lost it in a move immediately thereafter.

Ah well - we all have to have our Holy Grail of collecting and this is certainly mine ;P  I'll just have to keep checking ebay.

Anyone of you two who own a copy mind putting some scans up on BGG for me to turn green over?

Is this the same Dragonlord later released by FGU, or a separate game entirely?

Mike B.

tool wrote:Sorry to jump in here so late, but I just saw the thread...

As I recall, Dragonlord had an ad in the back which listed products not otherwise mentioned here - I believe one was a set of Lord of the Rings character cards.

Wow, I'm glad I wandered through and saw this.  The "Middle Earth Cards" were greeting cards with my illustrations for The Lord of the Rings - there were two sets, each with three cards each of two different illustrations.  They were something I had printed myself, before, during and after the WW days.

My father sent me some of those after he moved earlier this year (it's only when we move that we seem to find these things) and he also included one copy of a portfolio I published right after I left WW.  This was called "The Dice of Fate", and had a series of 8 1/2 x 11" prints of my WW covers, my Alarums & Excursions covers (more than I remembered, including one that wasn't used) and some original art that I don't think ever showed up anyplace else.  I keep meaning to scan some of those to post here, but obviously I haven't gotten around to it yet.