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Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:23 pm 
 

Just thought that I'd mention that I was given this as a gift for Christmas this year and it's fantastic.  If anyone is thinking about buying it, do it. It's extraordinarily well done. It's cool seeing so many familiar names with attributions too.

Nice job, Jon(and the three other writers).


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:17 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:20 pm 
 

increment wrote in Art & Arcana:  A Visual History of D&D:Glad you like it!


I did.  Seriously, it's great.  You guys should be proud.


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:21 pm 
 

increment wrote in Art & Arcana:  A Visual History of D&D:Glad you like it!

An incredible achievement, one that you should be VERY proud of and I'm glad to have a copy on my shelf.

  


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:27 pm 
 

Fully agree, it is fantastic, great job!

  

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:15 am 
 

Definitely great to see that it is appreciated. I hope it serves as a good tribute to the collecting community.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:39 am 
 

Yes, great job. We are lucky to have a French version, and that's fantastic.
Congratulations and thank you very much!... and a lot of names known here in the acknoledgment.
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:37 pm 
 

I got the Barnes & Noble version for Christmas. Very cool.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:39 am 
 

ddt58 wrote in Art & Arcana:  A Visual History of D&D:I got the Barnes & Noble version for Christmas. Very cool.


Do you the difference between this edition and the special edition (the one with slipcase and other freebies inside)?


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:47 pm 
 

Guy Fullerton posted about the B&N edition @ Unvisible Citadel: Art & Arcana review Barnes & Noble version

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aia wrote in Art & Arcana:  A Visual History of D&D:
Do you the difference between this edition and the special edition (the one with slipcase and other freebies inside)?


I was going to say "About 100 dollars"

So is Tomb of Horrors at Origins I considered the first D & D tournament?

  

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aia wrote in Art & Arcana:  A Visual History of D&D:
Do you the difference between this edition and the special edition (the one with slipcase and other freebies inside)?


That's a good question.  I don't think there was a Barnes & Noble special edition of the Collector's Edition.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:08 am 
 

I have the "ordinary" special edition... If you want i can list down all the contents of the slipcase as weel as page number... Is there anyone who can do the same for the B&N edition?


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:52 am 
 

ddt58 wrote in Art & Arcana:  A Visual History of D&D:So is Tomb of Horrors at Origins I considered the first D & D tournament?


It's probably one of the first easily recognizable ones, but almost certainly not the first from a historical POV.  Here are the links for the 1973, 1974, and 1975 GenCon tourneys:

- 1973 @ Year: 1973 - Blacklight Search Results
- 1974 @ Year: 1974 - Blacklight Search Results
- 1975 @ Year: 1975 - Blacklight Search Results and Dungeons and Dragons for Prizes - Blacklight and Dungeons and Dragons for Prizes - Blacklight and  Dungeons and Dragons for Prizes - Blacklight

It's not until 1975 that we see the generic "Dungeons and Dragons for Prizes" titles appear, which is similar to how Tomb of Horrors was listed in the Origins 1 programs:  "1st Trip into Dungeons & Dragons" (Friday 25 July 1975 @ 6pm), "2nd trip into Dungeons" (Saturday 26 July 1975 @ 10am), "3rd trip into Dungeons (Saturday @ 6pm), and "4th Trip into Dungeons" (Sunday 27 July 1975 @ 10am).

As you can see, at this early stage in the game's history, the events weren't really distinguished by scenario title in the programs themselves.  That said, we do know from Tim Kask's comments about his first D&D games at GenCon in 1974 that Kuntz ran The Machine Level from Castle Greyhawk (which was also Tim's second game too), and we know from Kuntz's Sunken City module that it was the 1975 GenCon tournament (22-24 August 1975).  

So, unless Gary or Rob ran some tourneys at another convention prior to GenCon @ 23-25 August 1974, The Machine Level is likely the first D&D tourney adventure, but it's not published yet.  The 1975 Origins Tomb of Horrors predates the 1975 GenCon Sunken City by a month, making them the earliest published tourney modules that we know of thus far.  

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:55 pm 
 

I can't remember much about the Origins I tournament, mainly because I was the first death in our group, and I did not hang around long after that. (And it was more than 40 years ago.)  I don't think I even survived the first hour.  Killed by a giant tick.  They gave out pre-gens randomly and I got an elf F4/M4/C4.  Not many hits and weak armor.

Tim Kask was our DM for Origins II, BTW. Survived that one.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:26 pm 
 

Just wanted to add my thanks to the contributors.  Got my deluxe for Christmas, and wow, what a fantastic product.  Spent a few hours going over it, and am sure I will enjoy many many more!

Side note for those who also like to spend a little time at the Cartographers Guild as well as collecting, I also got a wonderful new book "The Writer's Map, an Atlas of Imaginary Lands" that is very cool, full of maps from different books and stories, has a D&D section.   If your into that kind of thing...   :D

  
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