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Post Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:38 am 
 

Presumably at some point Chaosium will reprint their classic Lovecraft Country supplements with some newfangled 7th Edition stats, rulechanges and fancypants new layout ("gosh darn it!"), but until then, some books may start to be harder to get...

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:42 am 
 

Howdy all,  is this interesting or not:

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...i havent understood if it is a boardgame or not...  I havent seen this item before and i wonder what s for?


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:44 pm 
 

Aia,

It is a stand-alone game, one of four that Ral Partha produced:

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I've never played one, so I can't comment on the mechanics, other than it appears to be a skirmish-type battle game. From a miniatures collecting standpoint, they aren't very rare in my opinion.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:51 pm 
 

I don't have any of these sets from Ral Partha either, but I collect this type of game. If the rules are anything like similar products, it would introduce game mechanics similar to D&D or wargames, perhaps with something like a dungeon quest or the role of a GM to introduce those concepts. Interesting if you like introductory or minimalist rules.

Also interesting if you like the collectible miniatures games of the 21st Century, since these 1980s sets are constructed in a way that resembles a modern, collectible-miniatures starter set. Except that Ral Partha et al. probably did not expect their '80s consumers to keep playing these introductory games, but would instead move on to AD&D or wargames & continue to buy Ral Partha minis for the other games.

These products also likely existed for distribution & marketing purposes. With the rules, they could be sold simply as "games" rather than as hobby products of obscure utility.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:14 pm 
 

TollHouseGolem wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:Aia,

It is a stand-alone game, one of four that Ral Partha produced:

Games (Ral Partha) - Lost Minis Wiki

I've never played one, so I can't comment on the mechanics, other than it appears to be a skirmish-type battle game. From a miniatures collecting standpoint, they aren't very rare in my opinion.


Very cool, never heard of them before either. Thanks for the link TollHouseGolem and to Aia for bringing it up

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:49 pm 
 

Sweet DGuts 375. Interesting.

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:23 am 
 

ExTSR wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:Sweet DGuts 375. Interesting.

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375 bucks???  Ok it s the guidon edition,  but that cant be the mkt value as of today...  There was a bidding war behind i hope...


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:51 am 
 

I've said this before, but generally speaking we as game collectors have not yet established that items in extremely nice shape (NM or even better) should be worth 5 times as much (for instance) as an item in merely fine shape. That's how it works in comic collecting and sports card collecting. I think we will get there one day, but we are not there yet. I think it possible that the reason this auction went so high is because a few folks thought that this might be one of their few chances to get this item in extremely nice shape. How many of us have a Guidon DGUTS in NM condition?


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:02 am 
 

Well,  it s you at least!


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:59 am 
 

stratochamp wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I've said this before, but generally speaking we as game collectors have not yet established that items in extremely nice shape (NM or even better) should be worth 5 times as much (for instance) as an item in merely fine shape. That's how it works in comic collecting and sports card collecting. I think we will get there one day, but we are not there yet. I think it possible that the reason this auction went so high is because a few folks thought that this might be one of their few chances to get this item in extremely nice shape. How many of us have a Guidon DGUTS in NM condition?


Agree, but at the same time because of those still playing with these items (and Gods bless every one of them) it skews the prices up for mid or lower grade books (play copies). Using sports cards as an example - most collectors won't even touch worn cards at any price except for the rares.
That's where I see a huge difference in collecting vintage RPG and Cards or Comics. My theory probably falls a little flat though taking into consideration some Comics, the Golden Age & Silver Age Keys.

This is meant to be in general and especially for early printings of the AD&D Core Rule Books (except for the 1st prints and the DMG 2nd Alpha print)

On the plus side, at least we don't have near the volatility of the Comic Book and Trading Card Marketplaces.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:44 pm 
 

I was giving a truncated version of my opinion Mister Yuk, the longer version of which agrees with what you said. Because these items CAN be used to play games with (shocking!) some people will want them for their gaming content. There are two factors at work here. Firstly, that we gaming collectors are not (across the board) discriminating collectors. Many are willing to have a copy that is in VG condition say, and at half the price of a NM copy. From my perspective that copy in that shape is too much money, but it is being driven by the other factor: many of the items that we collect are so much more scarce than sports cards or comics. We have so many collectables where there are only a handful of copies extant. I think we know of four copies of the Jade Hare with cover. I'm sure there are more, but they have not surfaced to our broader collecting community. How many copies of the Greyhawk reference sheets have surfaced? So it is understandable that for items with this level of scarcity that if one pops up, it will do well regardless of the condition. But with something like a Deities and Demigods 1st Pr, where there are so many copies available, I expect that eventually (although this might take awhile) there will be more of a separation between a NM copy and a VG copy.

Speaking just for myself, I have about 140 "older" items on my want list. I could knock off probably a third of them in a month if I would be willing to accept a place holder copy of that item. But I'm patient. I want to find an outstanding example of the item (while keeping my out out for a better one).


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:29 pm 
 

I hope you took no offense to me jumping in on your comment. I should have stated "and" instead of "but" so it didn't seem like I was trying to best you or something like that. I'm new here, you all have done the hard work and I want to contribute - I'm probably too zealous at times.

I love your response, not just in general - but directly pertaining to me. I wrote a paragraph about how I'm planning on collecting RPG items but it seemed unnecessary and off topic so I deleted that part of my comment.

You must be psychic for bringing up Deities & Demigods though. I studied auctions and sold BINs and read up on anything else I could for months and then what was my first purchase? Overpaying on a NOT very great condition 2nd print Deities & Demigods. If I learned something from it, that $55 was well spent and nothing to cry over :) I thought I saw a topic post a while back asking us to lay out exactly how-what-why each of us wants our collection to be. I've been debating to dig that up or start a new one - I would be really interested in what any of you thought about my goals and would love to see what all of your's are. What's your opinion? Should I do that or is there a better site for discussions like that.

Right or wrong, I also have a lot of opinions on the future of collecting this. I think a lot of it will depend on those kids gaming today, what they think of the older stuff when they get older (and have money to spend on it).

stratochamp wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay: Speaking just for myself, I have about 140 "older" items on my want list. I could knock off probably a third of them in a month if I would be willing to accept a place holder copy of that item. But I'm patient. I want to find an outstanding example of the item (while keeping my out out for a better one).


You've just described why about every hole in my comic book collection is there and I'm so nitpick-y about it I can't buy them online, I have to see them in person to be sure, LOL

Thank you so much for your reply, I hope you have a great weekend.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:22 pm 
 

Mister Yuk wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I thought I saw a topic post a while back asking us to lay out exactly how-what-why each of us wants our collection to be. I've been debating to dig that up or start a new one - I would be really interested in what any of you thought about my goals and would love to see what all of your's are. What's your opinion? Should I do that or is there a better site for discussions like that.


Since this thread is primarily about "Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay," I'd recommend starting a new thread or reviving a thread that you find most relevant to your collecting philosophy question.  Here are three possibilities.

Collecting Goals

Reflections of a low level RPG collector

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I hope this helps.  8)


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:03 am 
 

benjoshua wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:
Mister Yuk wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I thought I saw a topic post a while back asking us to lay out exactly how-what-why each of us wants our collection to be. I've been debating to dig that up or start a new one - I would be really interested in what any of you thought about my goals and would love to see what all of your's are. What's your opinion? Should I do that or is there a better site for discussions like that.


Since this thread is primarily about "Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay," I'd recommend starting a new thread or reviving a thread that you find most relevant to your collecting philosophy question.  Here are three possibilities.

Collecting Goals

Reflections of a low level RPG collector

Looking for advice

I hope this helps.  8)


Thanks for taking the time to compile those. The first one is the one I'd seen before. I'll check out the other two also.

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:38 pm 
 

I took no offense at anything that you presented Jeff. I have made my thoughts known before and I try (I really do try) not to go on at length when the majority of our members have read my thoughts ad nauseum. Thanks for joining the Acaeum, and keep posting.


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stratochamp wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I took no offense at anything that you presented Jeff. I have made my thoughts known before and I try (I really do try) not to go on at length when the majority of our members have read my thoughts ad nauseum. Thanks for joining the Acaeum, and keep posting.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:39 am 
 

I'm nauseated with both of you, already!!!  :)

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Prufrock wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I'm nauseated with both of you, already!!!  :)

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:07 am 
 

Wayne's Books has the blue-envelope (sealed) version of Hess Games' Dark Dungeons II for $15 @ http://www.waynesbooks.net/?page=shop/f ... set=0&fs=1


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