Howdy all,  is this interesting or not:


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...i havent understood if it is a boardgame or not...  I havent seen this item before and i wonder what s for?

I don't have any of these sets from Ral Partha either, but I collect this type of game. If the rules are anything like similar products, it would introduce game mechanics similar to D&D or wargames, perhaps with something like a dungeon quest or the role of a GM to introduce those concepts. Interesting if you like introductory or minimalist rules.

Also interesting if you like the collectible miniatures games of the 21st Century, since these 1980s sets are constructed in a way that resembles a modern, collectible-miniatures starter set. Except that Ral Partha et al. probably did not expect their '80s consumers to keep playing these introductory games, but would instead move on to AD&D or wargames & continue to buy Ral Partha minis for the other games.

These products also likely existed for distribution & marketing purposes. With the rules, they could be sold simply as "games" rather than as hobby products of obscure utility.

Sweet DGuts 375. Interesting.

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I've said this before, but generally speaking we as game collectors have not yet established that items in extremely nice shape (NM or even better) should be worth 5 times as much (for instance) as an item in merely fine shape. That's how it works in comic collecting and sports card collecting. I think we will get there one day, but we are not there yet. I think it possible that the reason this auction went so high is because a few folks thought that this might be one of their few chances to get this item in extremely nice shape. How many of us have a Guidon DGUTS in NM condition?

stratochamp wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I've said this before, but generally speaking we as game collectors have not yet established that items in extremely nice shape (NM or even better) should be worth 5 times as much (for instance) as an item in merely fine shape. That's how it works in comic collecting and sports card collecting. I think we will get there one day, but we are not there yet. I think it possible that the reason this auction went so high is because a few folks thought that this might be one of their few chances to get this item in extremely nice shape. How many of us have a Guidon DGUTS in NM condition?

Agree, but at the same time because of those still playing with these items (and Gods bless every one of them) it skews the prices up for mid or lower grade books (play copies). Using sports cards as an example - most collectors won't even touch worn cards at any price except for the rares.
That's where I see a huge difference in collecting vintage RPG and Cards or Comics. My theory probably falls a little flat though taking into consideration some Comics, the Golden Age & Silver Age Keys.

This is meant to be in general and especially for early printings of the AD&D Core Rule Books (except for the 1st prints and the DMG 2nd Alpha print)

On the plus side, at least we don't have near the volatility of the Comic Book and Trading Card Marketplaces.

I hope you took no offense to me jumping in on your comment. I should have stated "and" instead of "but" so it didn't seem like I was trying to best you or something like that. I'm new here, you all have done the hard work and I want to contribute - I'm probably too zealous at times.

I love your response, not just in general - but directly pertaining to me. I wrote a paragraph about how I'm planning on collecting RPG items but it seemed unnecessary and off topic so I deleted that part of my comment.

You must be psychic for bringing up Deities & Demigods though. I studied auctions and sold BINs and read up on anything else I could for months and then what was my first purchase? Overpaying on a NOT very great condition 2nd print Deities & Demigods. If I learned something from it, that $55 was well spent and nothing to cry over I thought I saw a topic post a while back asking us to lay out exactly how-what-why each of us wants our collection to be. I've been debating to dig that up or start a new one - I would be really interested in what any of you thought about my goals and would love to see what all of your's are. What's your opinion? Should I do that or is there a better site for discussions like that.

Right or wrong, I also have a lot of opinions on the future of collecting this. I think a lot of it will depend on those kids gaming today, what they think of the older stuff when they get older (and have money to spend on it).

stratochamp wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay: Speaking just for myself, I have about 140 "older" items on my want list. I could knock off probably a third of them in a month if I would be willing to accept a place holder copy of that item. But I'm patient. I want to find an outstanding example of the item (while keeping my out out for a better one).

You've just described why about every hole in my comic book collection is there and I'm so nitpick-y about it I can't buy them online, I have to see them in person to be sure, LOL

Thank you so much for your reply, I hope you have a great weekend.

Jeff

benjoshua wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:

Mister Yuk wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I thought I saw a topic post a while back asking us to lay out exactly how-what-why each of us wants our collection to be. I've been debating to dig that up or start a new one - I would be really interested in what any of you thought about my goals and would love to see what all of your's are. What's your opinion? Should I do that or is there a better site for discussions like that.

Since this thread is primarily about "Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay," I'd recommend starting a new thread or reviving a thread that you find most relevant to your collecting philosophy question.  Here are three possibilities.

Collecting Goals

Reflections of a low level RPG collector

Looking for advice

I hope this helps.  8)

Thanks for taking the time to compile those. The first one is the one I'd seen before. I'll check out the other two also.

Another thank you for keeping me on message benjoshua

stratochamp wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I took no offense at anything that you presented Jeff. I have made my thoughts known before and I try (I really do try) not to go on at length when the majority of our members have read my thoughts ad nauseum. Thanks for joining the Acaeum, and keep posting.

Thank you

Prufrock wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Currently on eBay:I'm nauseated with both of you, already!!!  :)

Martin

Speaking for myself only, it's always kind of been my Superpower