Plaag wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:I did not.ShaneG.
ashmire13 wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:I honestly think the Barsh family are now dining out on their reputation and actually robbing people of money without the ability to deliver the goods anymore
mbassoc2003 wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:I assume Bill and Ben ignore Acaeum now?
mbassoc2003 wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:The real question is why Kickstarter allow failures to do further Kickstarters. Like eBay, Kickstarter makes money regardless of who loses out and how often. Their income stream comes from the project not the backer. There will always be backers.The best backers who feel they've been defrauded can do is make a lot of noise with a lot of posts in as many public forums as possible, and with as many mentioning of individuals' names as possible. That way individuals may come to feel that they have to take personal responsibility to protect their own reputations, as they learn that what they do and who they are associated with come to impact on their career options and who wants to be associated with them. Somewhere along the line individuals will realise their own personal reputations can impact them. It doesn't matter to most of the older generations, but it should for Ben if people start talking about money being lost backing Pacesetter projects.
ashmire13 wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:Unfortunately that’s what is happening, so Bill appears to be deliberately hiding his last f**k up
mbassoc2003 wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:Maybe we should keep a list of bad Kickstarter and Indigogo recipients and track them, out their future projects and publicise their frauds to future backers. Just like we track and out eBay fraudsters and their new IDs.That’s the easy bit because KSers can not hide their names and addresses from the public, and they can be outed and posted online. Especially if a Google search will then pick up terms like Kickstarter, company name, and words like problems and failure, and throw up a thread with a name and address of a perpetrators in it.So a bad Kickstarter or Indigogo thread might be a good idea.Once you track and trace an individual through repeated frauds you could them put a company like Kickstarter on notice that you have evidence of a systemic pattern of fraud associated with one group of individuals and you could then start posting articles to online news agencies that Kickstarter are aware and knowingly facilitating fraud for profit. But you need evidence of a repeating pattern over many years and you need to demonstrate that you had made KS aware. That bit really takes commitment to take action against KS, and I doubt anyone really cares that much over a few hundred bucks.
mbassoc2003 wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:By hanging his son out to dry?! I can't see a father doing that to his own son.
mbassoc2003 wrote in The Cataclysm is Here...:Maybe we should keep a list of bad Kickstarter and Indigogo recipients and track them, out their future projects and publicise their frauds to future backers. Just like we track and out eBay fraudsters and their new IDs.