Tadashi thought it was a fake, but that doesn't mean it may not be legit; I'll have to dig up Janet Trautvetter's email to see if she recalls any details (the other GL principals I know were later-era GL folks like Walter Hunt).

FWIW, I checked Heroic Worlds,and it only lists a single printing.  That may not be terribly relevant if there was a really small first print run---there are certainly plenty of non-TSR items that are not to be found in HW.

Okay the plot thickens. I purchased a copy of the Monty Hall Dungeon off the same seller at teh same time as I bought The Compleat Tavern. The Monty Hall Dungeon is different from the one listed on Afterglow. It is on heavy yellow cardstock paper as well, but it lacks the redish coloration of the text on the cover than the one listed on Afterglow. The Monty Haul looks like it could be a fake because of the fact that cover artwork iself cuts off before then edges leaving space between the print and the edge. Here is the deal though, but other than that, it looks and feels authentic s well. It also has that "New Old Module smell", just like the Compleat Tavern:?  Another thing that really monkeys things up away from being a fake is that Gamelords did produce at least one other legitimate product with a different cover: The Mines of Keridaev. I have 2, both with different covers and both are definitely legit. The other question that needs to be raised, is that if someone did fake them, why and the hell would you spend so much effort to fake a $3.00 or $4.00 item? Like I said if these things are in fact fakes, someone went through a lot of effort to make them seem as legit as possible. Just doesn't make sense

That item doesn't really command enough money to warrant the effort if they were done recently. Might make more sense if they are much older fakes and the conterfeiter intended to sell these out of their store way back when.



Interesting for sure.

mbassoc2003 wrote:Pheonix Keridav, and the black cover Keridav reprint. Are those the two you are thinking of, Alan?

ian, yes mate!



Al

The Monte Haul I have sounds a lot like yours (bc).  What is interesting is that the MH (black/yellow) has the same stapling as the CT (pink), with the arms rounding back into the book.  My CT (brown), Duel Arcane and Monday Morning Manager (all real Gamelords) all have the arms of the staples flattened back against the book.  It's not much, but it is a difference.

tfm wrote:The Monte Haul I have sounds a lot like yours (bc). What is interesting is that the MH (black/yellow) has the same stapling as the CT (pink), with the arms rounding back into the book. My CT (brown), Duel Arcane and Monday Morning Manager (all real Gamelords) all have the arms of the staples flattened back against the book. It's not much, but it is a difference.

Very intersting and a great point. My GL Mines of Keridav also has flattened staples. Here is something for you to think about though, my CT & MHD both are just like yours as far as the stapling goes with them rounding back in to the booklet And my Phoenix Games Mines of Keridav module has the satples rounding back in as well. The staples in the PG Mines are a little longer than the CT & MHD, but they are defintely rounding into the module and are not flat.

mbassoc2003 wrote:Could you post a picture of the Montie Haul?

Ian, I will. Just give me a minute.  I also have to email Shane a picture that he is waiting on too.

I have both items and will check what you have against mine tomorrow afternoon when I get home from work.



John