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Post Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:01 am 
 

It is a point, that instead of buying from kickstarters, you create your own scenario and run that.

However, if someone is paid $20k to produce something and then doesn’t, that’s theft, however you look at it.

PGS seems to be delivering the kickstarters now. I can’t comment on the quality, as I’ve not seen one, but IF they are as good as Bills originally, then they’re doing a good job.

Bill just shafted a lot of people with his kickstarters and quite frankly, repeated insincere apologies don’t cut it.
He let a lot of people down and he shouldn’t be supported.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:42 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote in Kickstarter projects:It is a point, that instead of buying from kickstarters, you create your own scenario and run that.

However, if someone is paid $20k to produce something and then doesn’t, that’s theft, however you look at it.

PGS seems to be delivering the kickstarters now. I can’t comment on the quality, as I’ve not seen one, but IF they are as good as Bills originally, then they’re doing a good job.

Bill just shafted a lot of people with his kickstarters and quite frankly, repeated insincere apologies don’t cut it.
He let a lot of people down and he shouldn’t be supported.


I’m guessing Ben is not going to let PGS slip any further into the pit, because he’s hung his reputation on it, and his face and reputation are known due to previous social media reputation. So if it is the case that Ben is working at PSG then he knows what damage can be done to his career, and he’s pulling out all the stops to make sure they deliver.

In regard to quality, no I idea. There was a horrific batch in the middle there for a while, and from what I’ve seen of the 5e stuff there is a lot better quality out there at the same price point, but at least the products are beginning to look more professional, but it must be a meagre existence at that position in the market.

What they need IMO is something cohesive and identifiably there’s. A talented writer could bring them that, but that means investment and belief from within, not another Kickstarter. I don’t think they understand, but if they are happy they are happy. The lightbulb might go one one day with Ben if he keeps talking to, and watching, those he knows who do get it.

I won’t be backing a KS, I really do these days unless it’s something special. But I will buy the right products if they bring any to market.

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I think what Sauromatian was getting at was there is absolutely no legal obligation for a company to provide you with anything what so ever for baking a Kickstarter. I believe KS make that very clear. So anything you do get is a bonus. When you send a gift to someone on KS, you should write the money off and consider it a gift, because that is what it is. The video, or KS page, is just their begging page, the same way people beg for money for legal fees, or hospital bills, or to help out their favourite tramp. The recipient has no obligation whatsoever, and you only believe you have a right for the, to justify themselves, when in fact they do not. At least that’s my take on the whole KS thing.

I think kids stopped designing their own dungeons when Google made finding practically everything ever published for  free on the internet.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:47 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Kickstarter projects:I think what Sauromatian was getting at...


Those words were not mine, but it is an interesting extrapolation nevertheless. Buyer beware, I suppose.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:51 pm 
 

sauromatian wrote in Kickstarter projects:
You're right - I should contribute something useful to this thread. Here is a form letter to send to anyone asking why one's kickstarter is late:

"No one owes you or your [gaming group] anything; nor is it the [kickstarter publisher's] responsibility to support you during trying times like this! Sink or swim, it’s your choice! The [kickstarter publisher] , along with [gaming supply] providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn hand out! If you don’t have [a module appropriate for your campaign] you step up and come up with a game plan to keep your [gaming group] [entertained]. If you have no [adventure scenarios] you deal with out and think outside of the box to survive and supply [entertainment] to your [gaming group]. If you were sitting at home in [boredom] because you have no [adventure scenarios] and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! Only the strong will survive and the week will [fail to level up]. Folks, [Hasbro] Has given us the tools to support ourselves in times like this. This is sadly a product of a socialist [dungeon master] where they feed people to believe that the FEW [earn experience points] and others will become dependent for [healing spells]. Am I sorry that you have been dealing without [a module appropriate for your campaign] and [adventure scenarios]; yes! But I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of [stocking a dungeon] themselves! We have lost sight of those in need and those that take advantage of the [D20 OGL] system and mesh them into one group!! Bottom line, quit crying and looking for [healing spells]! Get off your ass and take care of your own [gaming group]!

Bottom line - DON’T BE A PART OF A [total party kill], BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION!"


I found the source of your form letter  :D

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:47 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Kickstarter projects:Zine #2 was meant to be a little digest size monster pamphlet with 16 monsters in it, but I can't find any evidence it was published.


It was. I have it.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:38 am 
 

Can you post a photo?
Is it black and white also?


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:37 pm 
 

No, not easily. The pandemic has screwed up the supply chain for all sorts of things, including shelving. So after I moved, everything remains in crates and piles. So it's... somewhere.

Yes, black and white like the first one.


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:49 pm 
 

TheHistorian wrote in Kickstarter projects:No, not easily. The pandemic has screwed up the supply chain for all sorts of things, including shelving. So after I moved, everything remains in crates and piles. So it's... somewhere.

Yes, black and white like the first one.


The author is a buddy of mine.  

He hasn't put the second one on DriveThruRPG yet.  My understanding is that he intends to do that in the next couple of months, once he has finished and delivered the newest (third) issue.  It has always been a ZineQuest product, but he ended up putting the first issue on DriveThruRPG later down the line for people who had missed the initial project but wanted a copy.

They are all three black and white, as per Kickstarter's ZineQuest color limits.  Not everyone followed those rules, but technically the creators are supposed to stick to one color for paper and one color for text.  ZineQuest rules also require saddle-stitching (staple binding), so that limits the number of pages to a certain degree, depending on the thickness of the paper.  That's why they are all black and white and are roughly the same size (40-50 pages).

The Kickstarter for the latest issue wrapped up a week or so ago.  He included the first two issues in PDF form with all the backer levels this time.  So, $5 for all three PDFs, $10 for the print version of the new one, shipping included, with all three zine PDFs.  He is also including a PDF with paper miniatures of the monsters from the second zine, and some other PDF related to the new one (not sure what it is).  The last time I talked to him, he was trying to figure out how to chop it down enough to keep it within the staple-binding limits of the printer he is using.  The initial version ended up being too long by a few dozen pages, evidently, even with smaller type.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:58 pm 
 

A neat looking mapmaking program:

kickstarter.com/projects/1024146278/dun ... lchemisttm

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:17 pm 
 

VancianMagic wrote in Kickstarter projects:A neat looking mapmaking program:

kickstarter.com/projects/1024146278/dun ... lchemisttm


That looks great. Would love to see a hex mapper in a similar style.

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