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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:16 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:The PDF looks great on my Nook....particularly the back cover endpaper.
I wouldn't know how the hardcopies look...because they haven't arrived.   :evil:


I ordered the books a long while ago and do not recall if I got the PDF as well.
Do you recall how that was done?
Was the PDF an extra aside from the hard copy, or part of the main book package along with the 66.5 adventure?

Rabbit_67 wrote:My only disappointment was that the books (one of each) were placed in the box with wadded up paper on top to take up the remainder of the space in the box (packing material).  Nothing was added below or to the sides and all the corners on my books are dinged / dented from handling.   :(

Yep I had made the same order; for one of each type book.
And both of my books also have EVERY single corner dinged and bent.


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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:57 pm 
 

Goodman sent out an email a few weeks ago with a coupon code that made downloading the PDF from RPGnow free.

  

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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:58 pm 
 

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He looks like Vercingetorix with clown pants :)
I should have bought the standard edition finally.


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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:45 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:Great -  Another Castle Zagyg, The Upper Works disaster?


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so perhaps no surprises then - though I must say I am a little teempted by these books, an their shipping (costs, at least) are not the worst in the world


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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:05 pm 
 

And here is a thread from Goodman's forum with more than one person upset about the shipping method.

http://www.goodman-games.com/forums/vie ... 60&t=33819

I guess I was extremely lucky.  My book was shipped the same as everyone else's and there wasnt a scratch or ding on it.


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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:06 pm 
 

Yep, we paid only $4 to ship to France!  8O Only $4!! For such an huge book!


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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:09 pm 
 

lokiwookie wrote:He looks like Vercingetorix with clown pants :)  


In 1974, we all aspired to look like Vercingetorix in clown pants. Unfortunately, Goodman apparently remembered this.

  

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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:33 pm 
 

Who or what is Vercingetorix ?


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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:40 pm 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:Who or what is Vercingetorix ?


French comic character set in Roman era if I remember correctly. Asterix & Vercingetorix?


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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:57 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:French comic character set in Roman era if I remember correctly. Asterix & Vercingetorix?


Maybe he was in the beta version before Asterix & Obelisk :)

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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:13 pm 
 

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JasonZavoda wrote:French comic character set in Roman era if I remember correctly. Asterix & Vercingetorix?


Maybe he was in the beta version before Asterix & Obelisk :)


:lol:

So, no, he is not, nor the imaginary friend of Maréchal Petain....

Actually, Vercingetorix was the chieftin who united all the Gauls tribes against the Roman Empire during Gallic Wars (under Caesar's reign)... We can say that he was the very first King of "French" people.

I am wondering if the DCC barbarian is a representation of a Gauls' chief. Very similar to Vercingetorix representations:

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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:16 pm 
 

Got my DCC rpg hardcover today....it is huge...looking forward to diving in...

  

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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:36 am 
 

gyg wrote:
FormCritic wrote:Great -  Another Castle Zagyg, The Upper Works disaster?


from the website

Collector-quality copies: We are unfortunately not able to guarantee "collector-quality" copies. Even if the copy we package is pristine, we cannot guarantee that the mail carrier will deliver it pristine. If you are a collector looking for a "perfect" copy of a book, please be advised that we do not accept returns due to the normal wear-and-tear of the mail order process.


so perhaps no surprises then - though I must say I am a little teempted by these books, an their shipping (costs, at least) are not the worst in the world


So, yes, another Castle Zagyg disaster.  I'm crossing my fingers on my own copies..... :evil:


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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:41 am 
 

lokiwookie wrote:
Mars wrote:
Maybe he was in the beta version before Asterix & Obelisk :)


:lol:

So, no, he is not, nor the imaginary friend of Maréchal Petain....

Actually, Vercingetorix was the chieftin who united all the Gauls tribes against the Roman Empire during Gallic Wars (under Caesar's reign)... We can say that he was the very first King of "French" people.

I am wondering if the DCC barbarian is a representation of a Gauls' chief. Very similar to Vercingetorix representations:

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I've always like that picture of Vercingetorix.  Before he surrendered at Alesia, he rode around Caesar's hilltop position a couple times...magificent and defiant...while Caesar's guards tensed for an attack.  Then he surrendered for the good of his people.  It lends some final dignity to the Celtic defeat in Gaul.  I've always thought Caesar would have done better to adopt Vercingetorix than to treat him as a prize.


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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:42 am 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:
Gnat the Beggar wrote:Who or what is Vercingetorix ?


French comic character set in Roman era if I remember correctly. Asterix & Vercingetorix?


Asterix and Obelix.


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FormCritic wrote:
JasonZavoda wrote:
French comic character set in Roman era if I remember correctly. Asterix & Vercingetorix?


Asterix and Obelix.


Sense and Humor. We should have an Asterix smiley or at least one with a big mustache.


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lokiwookie wrote:Yep, we paid only $4 to ship to France!  8O Only $4!! For such an huge book!


Same here. I'm surprised I didn't get a notification afterwards to pay more shipping since when they were handing out the posters they did ask some money for the shipping.

Seeing the comments from shipments inside the US I'm already very worried about how they will arrive overhere  :?



  

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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:37 pm 
 

Unfortunately, I can't imagine that your books will arrive without some damage.  I hope they do.  Both of mine had fairly large corner dings, more so on one cover, than the other, depending on whether that cover was on the inside or outside.

The problem was that there was little clearance between the books and the box.  Any ding/dents, which are inevitable with most shippers handling practices, will directly impact what's stored inside.  Wish they would have used a slightly larger box and a little buffer paper.

Goodman has also layered cardboard on the inside before with my orders, which has helped as well.  Not sure with these collectible books why they would have thought ahead on this one.

  


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gyg wrote:
FormCritic wrote:Great -  Another Castle Zagyg, The Upper Works disaster?


from the website

Collector-quality copies: We are unfortunately not able to guarantee "collector-quality" copies. Even if the copy we package is pristine, we cannot guarantee that the mail carrier will deliver it pristine. If you are a collector looking for a "perfect" copy of a book, please be advised that we do not accept returns due to the normal wear-and-tear of the mail order process.


so perhaps no surprises then - though I must say I am a little teempted by these books, an their shipping (costs, at least) are not the worst in the world


I do too, perhaps we can get a pair shipped (I'm looking at the basic copy, not gilt) and split the costs?  :)


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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:23 pm 
 

My two copies arrived today...one foil and one standard.

When she heard a gamer friend mention it, my wife had encouraged me to get the foil version as a birthday present.  So, I've got one.

The books arrived with minor corner bumps...and one pretty good one on the back top corner of the foil edition cover.

I don't think their collector value has been destroyed for all time because I believe virtually all of these books will have been damaged in shipment.  That is pretty much guaranteed by the fact that they are heavy tomes and they have been shipped in tight boxes with no padding.  It would have taken hard work by the postal service not to bump their corners.

So, I'll gently straighten out the worst corner bump and I'll put these on my shelves.  I really like the game.  I just didn't like the company statement that said, essentially, "We know you paid a lot for a collector's edition, and we also know that the way we are shipping them is almost sure to damage every one of them.  But, if you complain, we officially declare you to be a doo doo head."  Okay, I can work with that, but the doo doo head caveat probably should have been in the initial listing for the item.

DCC #66.5 Doom of the Savage Kings is intensely nice.  It is short...only eight leaves (16 pages) with three pages taken up by maps.  The maps are cool, hand-drawn items that enhance the feel of the module.  No CGI here.  The artwork depicts cartoon gore and mayhem, warning the players of its lethality.   You get a well-drawn village, a wilderness area and a short dungeon.  This module was supposed to be only available with the initial pre-order, right?  On the cover it says, "Free with DCC RPG purchase," but it also says, "$9.99 otherwise."  Curious?  Or did I misread the original offer?

Overall, I prefer the look of the standard book to the foil copy.  I think the cover art catches the wind from Melnibone better than the puzzling skull on the foil version. (It looks sort of Central American to me....?)  The DCC RPG has limited spells...which suits me fine.  The spells only go up to 5th level and there are darn few of them on the upper level list.  This means that either the designer didn't intend for your character to live that long anyway, or there's another supplement coming.  The back cover blurb does state the "DCC RPG is a complete role playing game."  A supplement to get to higher levels would sort of cast a shadow on that whole "complete" concept.  (One of the essential mistakes of 4th Edition D&D was presenting the gamer with an incomplete system in its initial three books.)  I like the random spell results.  I think spell-casters in general are too cocky.  Characters cab influence the random spell rolls and some of the results are decidedly in the spell-caster's favor.

Looking at the back cover...someone has already pointed out that the female figure behind the disco barbarian has had a bow erased from her hands.  I think this was done because the figure's stance demanded a longbow and the resulting image would have projected into the book spine's gutter.  A light crossbow has been drawn in at the figure's waist, giving the impression that this clumsy NPC has dropped her weapon...or that it shrank out of her grasp.  I would have drawn daggers in both hands to hide the weapon switch.

Now, here is an irony:  The interior artist whose work looks the best to me is Russ Nicholson, the chief artist of the Fiend Folio.  Times have changed.

I think the initial price will hinder the spread of the game, but this is a version of D&D well worth trying to play.  If nothing else, it is a platform to keep on collecting the DCC modules.  If the modules keep the relative quality of #66.5, we have a winner.  And, the PDF price is easier than the hardcover price...so the RPG might not be that out of reach in an era of Ebooks and readers.


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