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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:44 am 
 

Mars wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Dreadmire still being flogged on Ebay by the author - still trying to get anything he can get for the book:


It really is a solid book at that price.  The author put a lot of time and effort into its creation.   8)


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:36 pm 
 

I picked up one of these a while back.  I actually thought it was a pretty good resource and well worth the money.  I'd recommend it for any swamp style encounters or adventures.

I think a couple of items were weak on the info, but overall a good book.  :)


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:54 pm 
 

Actually, the book clearly worth his price. It is a very interesting setting. I am surprised that he didn't sell better.


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:56 pm 
 

Agree with the guys above....

This book should have sold better than it did when originally published.

Mars wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Dreadmire still being flogged on Ebay by the author - still trying to get anything he can get for the book:

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Anyone who does not have a copy and passes on one at this price is missing a great value.
I can understand why this book did not sell at the original price to be honest as it was priced too high when so many supplements were being pushed out the doors by so many companies at the same time.
But now.... for less than the cost of a burger and fries, this is an Excellent value and a nice resource for any RPG system.


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:13 pm 
 

lokiwookie wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:I am surprised that he didn't sell better.


Aside from the high price, didn't this book also have a number of people accusing the author of stealing and publishing their material without there permission?  I seem to recall we had a discussion about this a while back.

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Mars wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:didn't this book also have a number of people accusing the author of stealing and publishing their material without there permission?  


Really?  :?


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:50 pm 
 

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Mars wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:didn't this book also have a number of people accusing the author of stealing and publishing their material without there permission?  


Really?  :?


Yes, it was a big controversy way back when.  Basically the author took material on other sites online and used it in his book without attribution, then lied about it.

That being said, it's a good book for the price. I have to believe he printed far too many of these bitd and now is still stuck with boxes and boxes of them (sort of like my Judges Guild piles).

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:33 pm 
 

That's bad :/


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cdenham wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Don't know anything about this one....  Anyone???

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Thanks for bringing this one back up.  I'd lost it off my radar.  I have tracked down and contacted the author so will see how many extra copies he has or even if he would be interested in doing a reprint.

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:20 pm 
 

You are welcome.   :D

Please keep me posted on what you find out.  I'd certainly be interested but I this current asking price is a bit much for me.  :)


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:48 am 
 

cdenham wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Please keep me posted on what you find out.  I'd certainly be interested but I this current asking price is a bit much for me.  :)


Yes. the seller's asking price is ridiculous.  The current pricing puts it at Daystar West or TSR tournament edition module prices whereas this items is simply a small press item where the author overstepped is using D&D branding.  

Off hand this would be the 3rd copy I have seen (assuming the is the same one this seller asked about a while back here on the Acaeum).  You start going down the list and I believe a couple of the higher paying collectors already have their copy so probably $100 is really where this one is probably at.

If the author ends up having half a dozen extra copies then that price plummets to probably around $40-$50.  If the author has a dozen copies or a box full then this will become very cheap.

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:24 am 
 

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Not sure if this is a good price for a well-used copy.


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Get them while they're hot.


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:46 pm 
 

That BIN was set up for me so thanks to whoever picked up both copies...

  

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:53 am 
 

dbartman wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:That BIN was set up for me so thanks to whoever picked up both copies...


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:52 am 
 

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dbartman wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:That BIN was set up for me so thanks to whoever picked up both copies...


harami2000 - I will reveal speculators without remorse.

Excuse me, but who is speculating here?

Making multiple purchases on a very small number of occasions to help justify otherwise extortionate international shipping costs is not "speculating", as such. Indeed, it's rather difficult to "speculate" when copies are given away free of charge (Castle Zagyg Upper Works, PotVQ and Misty Isles reprints, etc.) or deliberately swapped for items of lower value (some of which were given away to people who would actually use them). It was, however, amusing to see two of the PotVQ reprints that I'd given away/swapped for near-zero value be resold by the recipients for $125+ each.

If, for any reason, you have a bee in your bonnet about the more recent set of John Scott Clegg items, I think you'll find that - as expected - there are still a large number of those requiring to be shifted: at least $1,500 of otherwise "dead stock" which Doug and co. would presumably prefer to have for con funds and/or to pass back to the author within a sensible timeframe. With that many copies to shift, there was no way on earth these were going to vanish in a couple of days/suddenly become more valuable and anyone who wanted a set could have, and still can have, one at $75. The only difference my so-called "speculation" made was to add $750 to the sales total and ensure there would be a number of sets on this side of the pond for easier distribution - as freebies, swaps or whatever - at local postage rates: I cannot personally see that these will increase in value in any way above-and-beyond what a reseller could easily make (several times over?) from bulk lots or items that slip through eBay on the cheap.
Not that I should need to "defend" myself, anyhow, as I thought we were all meant to be "Acaeum buddies" around here, but having just checked back to the thread, even if I was "speculating" you yourself stated that was "cool" ( Re: Tombs of Valla and John Scott Clegg Productions ). Why the sudden apparent change of heart/tone of voice?

Anyhow; with regards to Escape from the Minotaur's Lair, a more sensible question might be "why $100"? If $100 is a "fair price" then the other copy currently listed at $150 (zero bids, thus far) will presumably go unsold.
As the seller can confirm, I was underbidder on the original auction and they set me up a second chance BIN at $169.99. I sent them an email the same day to ask whether they had any other copies as I could round up other interested people depending on how many others they had to sell but they chose not to reveal that in their delayed response -- delayed enough that I missed my own BIN.
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:24 am 
 

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Thank you, Jason, for the post here: I'd probably have been too late by the time my email notification arrived from eBay.


No problem. What is this? The People's Republic of the Acaeum. It's capitalism, baby. Don't they do private sales on ebay anymore?


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cdenham wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Don't know anything about this one....  Anyone???

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Holy Sh't! How prices have changed.
Author sitting on two copies must be a very happy man.

Wow!
So what was the final offer price?

Still, does that make it four copies in existence now?


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:51 am 
 

faro wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:
TheHistorian wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:
harami2000 - I will reveal speculators without remorse.

Excuse me, but who is speculating here?

Making multiple purchases on a very small number of occasions to help justify otherwise extortionate international shipping costs is not "speculating", as such. Indeed, it's rather difficult to "speculate" when copies are given away free of charge (Castle Zagyg Upper Works, PotVQ and Misty Isles reprints, etc.) or deliberately swapped for items of lower value (some of which were given away to people who would actually use them). It was, however, amusing to see two of the PotVQ reprints that I'd given away/swapped for near-zero value be resold by the recipients for $125+ each.

If, for any reason, you have a bee in your bonnet about the more recent set of John Scott Clegg items, I think you'll find that - as expected - there are still a large number of those requiring to be shifted: at least $1,500 of otherwise "dead stock" which Doug and co. would presumably prefer to have for con funds and/or to pass back to the author within a sensible timeframe. With that many copies to shift, there was no way on earth these were going to vanish in a couple of days/suddenly become more valuable and anyone who wanted a set could have, and still can have, one at $75. The only difference my so-called "speculation" made was to add $750 to the sales total and ensure there would be a number of sets on this side of the pond for easier distribution - as freebies, swaps or whatever - at local postage rates: I cannot personally see that these will increase in value in any way above-and-beyond what a reseller could easily make (several times over?) from bulk lots or items that slip through eBay on the cheap.
Not that I should need to "defend" myself, anyhow, as I thought we were all meant to be "Acaeum buddies" around here, but having just checked back to the thread, even if I was "speculating" you yourself stated that was "cool" ( Re: Tombs of Valla and John Scott Clegg Productions ). Why the sudden apparent change of heart/tone of voice?

Anyhow; with regards to Escape from the Minotaur's Lair, a more sensible question might be "why $100"? If $100 is a "fair price" then the other copy currently listed at $150 (zero bids, thus far) will presumably go unsold.
As the seller can confirm, I was underbidder on the original auction and they set me up a second chance BIN at $169.99. I sent them an email the same day to ask whether they had any other copies as I could round up other interested people depending on how many others they had to sell but they chose not to reveal that in their delayed response -- delayed enough that I missed my own BIN.
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Thank you, Jason, for the post here: I'd probably have been too late by the time my email notification arrived from eBay.


As always, the market will determine prices, which is as I like it.  

Faro is correct, with the flood of Clegg items it will be awhile (if ever) before he "makes" money on them (if that's even his intention, he might just want to pass on copies to friends for all I know).  We were just happy to offer the items at a fair price, and make a profit which is funnelled back into the con, and with the added bonus they are being read and seeing the light of day.....a far sight better than sitting in boxes in Clegg's basement. (We paid up front for these so any sold copies benefit the convention directly at this point.....buy another few copies if you can!)

I did sell a set on Ebay almost immediately for $150 (mostly as a experiment to see how quickly they would go, and to see if the penetration of RPG marketplace helped at all, many reasons, but not apologizing for doubling my investment at all, mind you)  but beyond that I figure in the future Clegg items will sit, as nearly all the known name collectors are on this forum and have bought a copy (or multiple copies) at the price of $25 each.

Anyway I don't even know what we are arguing about.  Hoarding?  Not letting others get in on good deals?  As always I am more motivated by getting rare items like this "out there" to be seen by more people than anything else (although it's nice to profit a bit off of them if you can still offer a decent price, witness we didn't charge $100 apiece for the Clegg items and sit on them until someone paid that much).  As many Bottle City copies as the NTRPG con owns (at least 10 maybe more) we are pushing hard for Rob to reprint this item in any sort of format, it is too cool to have it disappear into the mists of collecting for $150 a pop.  

Not even sure of my point just that you can speculate, be a collector, and give back to the hobby all at once. I've found being on here so long it's hard to speculate on motives even based on past behavior.

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