increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:From what I can judge from the pictures, the #5, #7, #8, #9, and the #4 are photocopies, not originals. Surely contemporary photocopies, but photocopies nonetheless. Gary was pretty good about circulating photocopies of his personal issues, like #5 (you can see the "Gary" on it), especially when Schleicher was slow to fulfill subscriptions. I have a contemporary photocopy just like that #5.
webrik33 wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:From what I can judge from the pictures, the #5, #7, #8, #9, and the #4 are photocopies, not originals. Surely contemporary photocopies, but photocopies nonetheless. Gary was pretty good about circulating photocopies of his personal issues, like #5 (you can see the "Gary" on it), especially when Schleicher was slow to fulfill subscriptions. I have a contemporary photocopy just like that #5.Are the prices listed on this site for originals or photocopies?
Melnibonean wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:From what I can judge from the pictures, the #5, #7, #8, #9, and the #4 are photocopies, not originals. Surely contemporary photocopies, but photocopies nonetheless. Gary was pretty good about circulating photocopies of his personal issues, like #5 (you can see the "Gary" on it), especially when Schleicher was slow to fulfill subscriptions. I have a contemporary photocopy just like that #5.I asked the seller if he had any provenance to go with the Domesdays and mentioned that some of them appeared to be photocopies and if he knew which were originals and which were photocopies. This was his reply:"These items are part of an on-going estate sale of a lifelong gamer. Yes, he had a habit of photocopying documents and we would not knowingly sell a bootleg item. Bootlegged items will be immediately withdrawn from sale.
Grug Greyskin wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:He has posted this Q&A on the listing, but he has not changed the listing or "immediately withdrawn from sale" any of the copies shown.
increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Grug Greyskin wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:He has posted this Q&A on the listing, but he has not changed the listing or "immediately withdrawn from sale" any of the copies shown.I wouldn't be too hard on the seller. He's selling the estate of a guy who probably picked these up forty years ago from a few different sources, maybe buying the hole-punched ones all as a lot at some early GenCon, purchased from a guy who got a photocopy from someone who got a photocopy from Gary. No one attached any importance then to the distinction between an original or a copy, nor did anyone have the slightest inkling of the potential valuation of these items decades later. I certainly would not accuse the seller of dealing bootleg items.
Grug Greyskin wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:I don't think he is intentionally trying to cheat anyone, as he clearly did not know what he had and could not have realized the value (the listing started at $9.95). At this point, however, I think he has some degree of obligation to make sure he is accurately listing the item. You can't stand behind "AS IS" on a potentially $10K auction lot.
increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:I don't think he is intentionally trying to cheat anyone, as he clearly did not know what he had and could not have realized the value (the listing started at $9.95). At this point, however, I think he has some degree of obligation to make sure he is accurately listing the item. You can't stand behind "AS IS" on a potentially $10K auction lot.
randomluck wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:webrik33 wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Are the prices listed on this site for originals or photocopies?The prices listed on the detailed Domesday Book page for the 9/12 auctions are all for Dave Arneson's personal copies. I'm not sure about any of the other prices listed on the site.
webrik33 wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Are the prices listed on this site for originals or photocopies?
Grug Greyskin wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:I wouldn't be too hard on the seller. He's selling the estate of a guy who probably picked these up forty years ago from a few different sources, maybe buying the hole-punched ones all as a lot at some early GenCon, purchased from a guy who got a photocopy from someone who got a photocopy from Gary. No one attached any importance then to the distinction between an original or a copy, nor did anyone have the slightest inkling of the potential valuation of these items decades later. I certainly would not accuse the seller of dealing bootleg items.I don't think he is intentionally trying to cheat anyone, as he clearly did not know what he had and could not have realized the value (the listing started at $9.95). At this point, however, I think he has some degree of obligation to make sure he is accurately listing the item. You can't stand behind "AS IS" on a potentially $10K auction lot.
increment wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:I wouldn't be too hard on the seller. He's selling the estate of a guy who probably picked these up forty years ago from a few different sources, maybe buying the hole-punched ones all as a lot at some early GenCon, purchased from a guy who got a photocopy from someone who got a photocopy from Gary. No one attached any importance then to the distinction between an original or a copy, nor did anyone have the slightest inkling of the potential valuation of these items decades later. I certainly would not accuse the seller of dealing bootleg items.
faro wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:Just in case anyone recently splurged a few hundred dollars on Traveller 'zines, or was tempted to do so, heracleides on eBay is back to selling his (expensive) forgeries yet again. A couple of their most recent listings appear to have been rather too tempting... They probably won't smell as new this time around.
JasonZavoda wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:I posted about this in the general discussion forum. I messaged him and he claims they are original but I didn't believe him.
webrik33 wrote in Interesting Non-TSR Items Formerly on eBay:So my dumb question of the day is which issues are the originals? And estimated value thereof? would the hole-punched copies carry any value at all?