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Gnat the Beggar
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:12 pm

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Original trilogy Rappan-Athuk.

All three books started at $0.01...

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Same three books with a BIN of $49.99

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:16 pm

Hey everyone,

I'm not a RQ collector so not sure if this might be of interest.

Collectible Runequest Role Playing game - purchased 30 years ago (1982)

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Looks to be in great shape considering how old it is.

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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:21 am

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
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Never have seen a BIN for one of these for just $10 USD ($4 US Shipping).
If you do not have this and do collect RuneQuest, then this is the one you will want to nab.
Even missing 1-2 sheets, this is a steal of a deal.

Still available in shrink for $12: http://www.dragonstrove.com/node/1110

And these are RQ3.

Areas of interest/knowledge: Harn, WFRP, Ars Magica, anything BRP based such as CoC, Runequest, Pendragon and all their related games

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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:29 pm

AUD130 for Beastmaker mountain

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same seller has Fez too.

Adventures in Austerion : a fantasy RPG, with boardgame mechanisms and modular battlemap. By Guillaume Tavernier and GÃ©raud G.

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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:47 pm

Number of Midkemia Press items...

City of Carse (not sure about a map)

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Tulan of the Isles

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Carse, Cities, & Tulan lot (Chaosium printings)

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I draw the line at collecting... D&D beach towels.

Shoulda been: ".. from Pangreenia to Floratopolis, from mystical Treeonia of spectral Forests to Schruborial dimensions." - The Forests of Leng

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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:29 am

davidc wrote:City of Carse (not sure about a map)

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The game book has 77 pages. The book is soft cover. It measures 8 1/2" x 11". The cover has light surface wear. Some light aging to the cover seen on the edges. The back cover has left bottom corner curling (see photo). All pages are intact. No separate map found. I don't know if there was a map or not? The book has possibly been used and played with. No pen or pencil marks found. The book is in good shape. Please don't expect a mint book. The book is sold as found!

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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:39 am

Right you are

Too bad, I don't think first edition Ciy of Carse comes around that often.

I draw the line at collecting... D&D beach towels.

Shoulda been: ".. from Pangreenia to Floratopolis, from mystical Treeonia of spectral Forests to Schruborial dimensions." - The Forests of Leng

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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:03 am

Resurrecting the usual PDF debate - Is it immoral for people to trade PDF versions of maps and map booklets for all the items that cross eBay sans maps. After all, the seller has not bought the maps, but, the IP owner, the author, the artist and the original publishing house are also receiving nothing from the transaction anyways.

So, is the distribution of PDF maps wrong? Surely if people knew they could lay their hands on the maps, it would ease the sale of items without maps.
If it's not wrong, then what about other player handout books?
What about a person who is missing the centre pages of text?

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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:21 am

GW char sheets:

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no cover though!

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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:32 am

mbassoc2003 wrote:Resurrecting the usual PDF debate - Is it immoral for people to trade PDF versions of maps and map booklets for all the items that cross eBay sans maps. After all, the seller has not bought the maps, but, the IP owner, the author, the artist and the original publishing house are also receiving nothing from the transaction anyways.

So, is the distribution of PDF maps wrong? Surely if people knew they could lay their hands on the maps, it would ease the sale of items without maps.
If it's not wrong, then what about other player handout books?
What about a person who is missing the centre pages of text?

No. The author is probably not losing out on any revenue, especially if the item is no longer published. This could stir up an endless debate, but I doubt many authors would consider it immoral for someone to request a piece of one of their works in PDF format. You cannot typically buy a piece of the item by itself. Now, if the map was considered the whole item, then that would probably be considered over the line.

Perhaps some authors would disagree. I would respect that opinion since it is their right to protect their works.

Hey, maybe I just brought up a good revenue stream... Authors selling bits and pieces of their original works, for a bargain price, to people in need. Kind of like an aftermarket spare parts distribution...

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:40 am

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$3 starting price and a $5 BIN!

Seller has quite a few decent BINs for TSR Modules as well, along with a few other ROG books.

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:57 pm

And it begins...

First person I've noticed selling preorders for the Players Handbook reprint.

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:26 pm

mbassoc2003 wrote:Resurrecting the usual PDF debate - Is it immoral for people to trade PDF versions of maps and map booklets for all the items that cross eBay sans maps. After all, the seller has not bought the maps, but, the IP owner, the author, the artist and the original publishing house are also receiving nothing from the transaction anyways.

So, is the distribution of PDF maps wrong? Surely if people knew they could lay their hands on the maps, it would ease the sale of items without maps.
If it's not wrong, then what about other player handout books?
What about a person who is missing the centre pages of text?

The owners of the intellectual property rights (authors, artists, etc) have already been compensated for used book sales (in whole or in part) in the form of higher prices at the initial point of sale. [i.e., imagine prices if there were no used market]. So the authors have no gripe - legal or moral - about transactions in the secondary market. They are being compensated.

Distributing copyrighted material, however, without the consent of the author(s) is a different matter - this is not strict exchange but duplication. You'd have to check to what degree "fair use" would cover this, but I suspect that, IF copyright owners asserted their rights (and that's a big IF), printing the full maps and covers without the author(s)' consent would be copyright violation.

So is theft moral if the person(s) you are stealing from likely doesn't care? Unless we know for certain, I would say it's immoral.

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:36 am

SimperingToad wrote:And it begins...

First person I've noticed selling preorders for the Players Handbook reprint.

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Postage to the UK is a bit high.

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:46 am

Sardan wrote:
Postage to the UK is a bit high.

Hey Sardan,

Not sure what it is to the UK, but it was around US$48.00 to Hong Kong for the shipping...

Best regards,
Ronald

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:29 am

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:The owners of the intellectual property rights (authors, artists, etc) have already been compensated for used book sales (in whole or in part) in the form of higher prices at the initial point of sale. [i.e., imagine prices if there were no used market]. So the authors have no gripe - legal or moral - about transactions in the secondary market. They are being compensated.

Distributing copyrighted material, however, without the consent of the author(s) is a different matter - this is not strict exchange but duplication. You'd have to check to what degree "fair use" would cover this, but I suspect that, IF copyright owners asserted their rights (and that's a big IF), printing the full maps and covers without the author(s)' consent would be copyright violation.

So is theft moral if the person(s) you are stealing from likely doesn't care? Unless we know for certain, I would say it's immoral.

So if someone buys something and it's missing the maps or the back pages, or players handout, we shouldn't pass along copies to help them out, because in doing so we are stealing from the author/artist?

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:43 am

RUBBISH!

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:40 am

mbassoc2003 wrote:So if someone buys something and it's missing the maps or the back pages, or players handout, we shouldn't pass along copies to help them out, because in doing so we are stealing from the author/artist?

Such is the problem when discussing IP law with amateurs. They have no idea what the laws actually do. Backup copies? Expiration or abandonment? Never heard of it, you must be a thief.

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