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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:56 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:and whatever else he is publishing with Jim Raggi and Lamentations of the Flame Princess...is probably expurgated to a considerable extent.


The LotFP re-release of Carcosa will be a deluxe, expanded version of the unexpurgated Carcosa.

(Carcosa is a setting that can be used with any old-school game... it is not a full game in its own right)



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:02 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:I don't think McKinney was going for gross or shocking.  I think he was going for horror.


It's a fine line, isn't it?  I subscribe to the "less is more" notion about horror, so I'd prefer an expurgated version, at least in this case.

Gross and shocking frequently don't work in video, either.  Neither Stephen King nor Lovecraft make for good film adaptations.  I see similar problems with RPGs.  It's better for gaming to soft-peddle the gore and let players' imagination work the horror elements.  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:28 pm 
 

JimLotFP wrote:
The LotFP re-release of Carcosa will be a deluxe, expanded version of the unexpurgated Carcosa.

(Carcosa is a setting that can be used with any old-school game... it is not a full game in its own right)


There you have it...right from the source.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:32 pm 
 

The expanded Carcosa would be improved by more details about the fantasy setting itself.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:12 pm 
 

So, then, are there any other white-box-like sets for other game systems?

I know of OD&D, C&C, Traveller, and now S&S.

Anything else?  
Boothill?
Gamma World?


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:01 pm 
 

Swords and Wizardry?  Did you mention that one already?


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:38 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:So, then, are there any other white-box-like sets for other game systems?

I know of OD&D, C&C, Traveller, and now S&S.


If you add non-white boxed sets there is several others (since Traveller is not white). The first that come to my mind are KABAL, Arduin Trilogy, Ironhedge, etc.


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:19 am 
 

lokiwookie wrote:
If you add non-white boxed sets there is several others (since Traveller is not white). The first that come to my mind are KABAL, Arduin Trilogy, Ironhedge, etc.


Thanks for the suggestions.
I was using "white-box" to describe the type of rules set.  The color isn't an issue.

What about supplements, e.g., in the digest-size format of GH, BM, EW?
Were the TSR booklets the only ones published?
Or were there 3rd-party supplements?  
Judges Guild comes to mind: They generated a lot of D&D material back in the day.
Wonder if they had any supplements for the original box set.

Just thinking out loud with electrons ...

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:21 pm 
 

BTW nice to see you around here posting again, Keith!

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:13 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:BTW nice to see you around here posting again, Keith!

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Thanks, Mike!

I cycle in and out every few months.  
I usually collect in the summer but our house was damaged by the tornados that ripped through Alabama on April 27th.  That threw everything out of whack.  :-/


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:36 pm 
 

Keith the Thief,

I hope all is well with you and your family.  Hope the collection came thru unscathed as well.

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:38 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:
Thanks, Mike!

I cycle in and out every few months.  
I usually collect in the summer but our house was damaged by the tornados that ripped through Alabama on April 27th.  That threw everything out of whack.  :-/


Apparently you don't just cycle in.

You cyclone in.


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:48 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:
Apparently you don't just cycle in.

You cyclone in.


That's at least a double, if not a triple-entendre.  :wink:


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:18 pm 
 

You have also the vs Monsters white box edition. P J Reed made only 30 of them.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:04 pm 
 

Prufrock wrote:Keith the Thief,

I hope all is well with you and your family.  Hope the collection came thru unscathed as well.

Martin


The family and collection are fine.  
A tree (a big one) fell on the house.  
But insurance, builder,  bank, appraiser, etc, are all dragging their feet.
The usual.

But that is what led me to look through my collection and figure out what's what, which ultimately led to this thread.

Besides white box sets, I'm trying to figure out which direction I want to taking my collecting.

Decisions, decisions ...


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Post Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:42 pm 
 

I threw my copy of the Spellcraft & Swordplay box set up on Ebay if anyone is interested.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:33 pm 
 

If you're starting a collection that would include Swords & Wizardry stuff, I have something that might be nice for such a collection - it's the test copy of the third printing of the S&W WB which was then changed to use the Pete Mullen art again for the copies that were sold. Thus this is the only copy of it that was printed, and it's different than the one sold to the public. It's the same internal pages and cover as the free pdf, although the spine printing was added directly via lulu, and the cover was also uploaded separately.

I don't know if that's an item of interest or not. It's hardcover and digest sized. (Actually the lulu stuff is not exactly digest sized, I think it might be 6x9?)

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:35 pm 
 

Found this link on Jason Zavoda's blog.  It reviews and provides a link to what may be the "perfect" OSR booklet ...

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:26 pm 
 

A new OD&D retroclone in a white box game from Brave Halfling is now available: Delving Deeper Boxed Set. It's a clone of the LBBs (pre-supplements) and replaces the Swords & Wizardry Whitebox published previously by BH. $39.95 before 11/15, $49.95 after.

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About (see here for pictures).

Hey folks!

The development of Delving Deeper is coming to a close and the final form of the product has taken shape! For the boxed sets, the games has been separated into five, digest volumes. But rather than just slashing up Delving Deeper into five booklets, we have instead chosen to treat each volume as a product in its own right. Each Delving Deeper booklet ranges from 40-60 pages in length, is highly illustrated and contains both a table of contents and an index. Mark Allen is creating unique cover art for each volume right now and I will have samples as soon as they are available. Samples from Volume II decorate this post. The five volumes that make up Delving Deeper RPG are:

Volume One: Forging a Hero

Volume Two: Codex of the Divine and the Arcane

Volume Three: Index of the Fiendish and Malign

Volume Four: Vault of Treasures

Volume Five: Delving Deeper and Blazing New Trails

So in all, the Delving Deeper Boxed Sets will contain the five volumes of Delving Deeper RPG, a digest copy Robert Conley's, Blackmarsh Campaign Setting (that's nearly 300 pages in all!), nine dice (3d6, 2d10, 1d20, 1d12, 1d8 and 1d4) and a pad of 25 digest character sheets.

Because of the size of the five booklets and because I create each one carefully by hand (even scoring each page so that the booklets will fold over correctly) using the highest quality materials, I am going to have to raise the price of the boxed sets from $39.95 to $49.95. However, I am not going to raise the price until November 15, so that folks will have a chance to purchase a boxed set at the lower price. Plus, this can also be seen as a way of rewarding all the people who pre-ordered a boxed set months ago at a much lower price.

We are proud of Delving Deeper RPG and we think you will love it as well.


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For you, gentle readers, here is a list of what is and what isn't in the Delving Deeper FRPG.

What is in the game:
  • Three Classes
  • Three Demi-Human Race-as-Classes (with Level Caps)
  • Three Alignments
  • Three Types of Armor (with lower number = better protection)
  • d6 Hit Dice
  • Multiple Saving Throw Categories
  • Rules for Wilderness, Underwater, and Airborne Adventures

What is not in the game:
  • Variable Weapon Damage
  • Any Type of Critical Hit System
  • Sub-Classes
  • Psionics

What you may be surprised to find in the game:
  • Missile Weapon Ranges
  • Thieves (clearly denoted as an optional class)
  • Initiative
  • Sequence of Battle


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:52 pm 
 

Makes me happy I pre-ordered my copy for $29.95 way back in January.  :D


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