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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:50 pm

I belive there wa a sanitized version sold as well..

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:15 am

Yes, there is an "expurgated" version of Carcosa.

Naturally, when I ordered from McKinney I specified unexpurgated...because I didn't want any sissy censored version.

My copy is probably special in some way, because unlike the other copies mine has a white cover. McKinney did a special copy just for me...signed it, etc.

I read Carcosa and then let him know that the content was disturbing, but, I said, "I can take a joke."

He didn't respond.

Something tells me that the boxed set...and whatever else he is publishing with Jim Raggi and Lamentations of the Flame Princess...is probably expurgated to a considerable extent.

I don't think McKinney was going for gross or shocking. I think he was going for horror.

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:56 am

FormCritic wrote:and whatever else he is publishing with Jim Raggi and Lamentations of the Flame Princess...is probably expurgated to a considerable extent.

The LotFP re-release of Carcosa will be a deluxe, expanded version of the unexpurgated Carcosa.

(Carcosa is a setting that can be used with any old-school game... it is not a full game in its own right)

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:02 am

FormCritic wrote:I don't think McKinney was going for gross or shocking. I think he was going for horror.

It's a fine line, isn't it? I subscribe to the "less is more" notion about horror, so I'd prefer an expurgated version, at least in this case.

Gross and shocking frequently don't work in video, either. Neither Stephen King nor Lovecraft make for good film adaptations. I see similar problems with RPGs. It's better for gaming to soft-peddle the gore and let players' imagination work the horror elements.

(All of this JMHO, of course.)

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:28 pm

JimLotFP wrote:
The LotFP re-release of Carcosa will be a deluxe, expanded version of the unexpurgated Carcosa.

(Carcosa is a setting that can be used with any old-school game... it is not a full game in its own right)

There you have it...right from the source.

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:32 pm

The expanded Carcosa would be improved by more details about the fantasy setting itself.

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:12 pm

So, then, are there any other white-box-like sets for other game systems?

I know of OD&D, C&C, Traveller, and now S&S.

Anything else?
Boothill?
Gamma World?

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:01 pm

Swords and Wizardry? Did you mention that one already?

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:38 pm

Keith the Thief wrote:So, then, are there any other white-box-like sets for other game systems?

I know of OD&D, C&C, Traveller, and now S&S.

If you add non-white boxed sets there is several others (since Traveller is not white). The first that come to my mind are KABAL, Arduin Trilogy, Ironhedge, etc.

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:19 am

lokiwookie wrote:
If you add non-white boxed sets there is several others (since Traveller is not white). The first that come to my mind are KABAL, Arduin Trilogy, Ironhedge, etc.

Thanks for the suggestions.
I was using "white-box" to describe the type of rules set. The color isn't an issue.

What about supplements, e.g., in the digest-size format of GH, BM, EW?
Were the TSR booklets the only ones published?
Or were there 3rd-party supplements?
Judges Guild comes to mind: They generated a lot of D&D material back in the day.
Wonder if they had any supplements for the original box set.

Just thinking out loud with electrons ...

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:21 pm

BTW nice to see you around here posting again, Keith!

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:13 pm

Badmike wrote:BTW nice to see you around here posting again, Keith!

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Thanks, Mike!

I cycle in and out every few months.
I usually collect in the summer but our house was damaged by the tornados that ripped through Alabama on April 27th. That threw everything out of whack. :-/

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:36 pm

Keith the Thief,

I hope all is well with you and your family. Hope the collection came thru unscathed as well.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:38 pm

Keith the Thief wrote:
Thanks, Mike!

I cycle in and out every few months.
I usually collect in the summer but our house was damaged by the tornados that ripped through Alabama on April 27th. That threw everything out of whack. :-/

Apparently you don't just cycle in.

You cyclone in.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:48 pm

FormCritic wrote:
Apparently you don't just cycle in.

You cyclone in.

That's at least a double, if not a triple-entendre. :wink:

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:18 pm

You have also the vs Monsters white box edition. P J Reed made only 30 of them.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:04 pm

Prufrock wrote:Keith the Thief,

I hope all is well with you and your family. Hope the collection came thru unscathed as well.

Martin

The family and collection are fine.
A tree (a big one) fell on the house.
But insurance, builder, bank, appraiser, etc, are all dragging their feet.
The usual.

But that is what led me to look through my collection and figure out what's what, which ultimately led to this thread.

Besides white box sets, I'm trying to figure out which direction I want to taking my collecting.

Decisions, decisions ...

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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:42 pm

I threw my copy of the Spellcraft & Swordplay box set up on Ebay if anyone is interested.

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