The Frugal D&D collector or The Talisman Thread
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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:25 pm 
 

Ok, let's face it - AD&D/D&D collectors are the. . . ummm. . . most thrifty of them all.  

Perhaps it's because of the vast amount of different Dungeons & Dragons material - or the massive print runs.   In any case, with all the talk of
 "can't believe someone paid that much"
and
"ridiculous auction prices"
not to mention
 "another Newbie gets the shaft",
there are those who pay quite a bit more for their RPG of choice (and some who can get what they want with small pebbles and bits of string).

So, when you are out there raiding the Game/Hobby Store, Comic Book stores and Used Book stores - keep an eye out for the following.  If you can get a good price, snag them and resell them.  

My top picks (discovered in a years worth of reselling and data gathering.

PLEASE NOTE:  Don't PM me nasty messages or leave hateful posts if you dump a bunch of cash and fail to get the return you wanted.  The prices I mentioned are typical (and still have a wide range at any given time).  Take your chances, but if it's only a few dollars in decent shape, you can't go wrong.

(For each item I give a range of typical sale prices)


Star Frontiers:
-        Zebulon's Guide to Frontier Space (w/ Star Map): $15 - 25

Marvel Super-Heroes:
-        Ultimate Powers Book: $25 - $50

BattleTech:
-        House Books (Marik, Steiner, Liao or Kurita): $25 -- 60
-        Star League: $40-70
-        Camo Specs (Guide to Regimental Paint Schemes) $15 -- 35
-        Wolf's Dragoons $15- 30
-        Onmimech Techprints or Blueprints (complete with box) $15-30
-        Rhonda's Irregulars, The Periphery, Shrapnel, Hot Spots (both books): $10-25


Changeling the Dreaming (White Wolf)

Changeling the Dreaming sells for higher prices than any RPG on eBay.  There must be a huge crossover market of those who like Faeries.

- 2nd edition Rulebook $20-40
- Kithbook Pooka  $60-100 (amazing!  You can sell this item for more than almost any D&D (non-Rare) item out there.  I found one of these in MINT condition in an overstock bin at a book store for $2.99 (sold for $100.00)
- Kithbooks (Eshu, Trolls, Satyrs, Nockers, Sluagh) $25 -- 50
- Books of Houses II -- $25-40
- Book of Lost Houses - $20-30
- Shadow Court $25-50
- Land of Eight Million Dreams $25 +
- Nobles: The Shining Host $20+
- Most other Changeling Books will bring in over $10.00 each (sometimes quite a bit more.)

Wraith (White Wolf)
-        2nd edition Hardcover book $25-50
-        Ends of Empire $25-50
-        The Risen $20-40
-        Dark Reflections: Spectres $20-60


Werewolf the Apocalypse
- Changing Breed Book: Ananasi $20-40
-  Book of the Wyrm 2nd edition: $15-30

Vampire the Masquerade:
-        Clanbook Salubri: $15-25

Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (These also get great prices)
-        Hardcover Rulebook $20-50
-        Softcover Rulebook: $12-30
-        Restless Dead $25-60
-        Lichemaster: $25-50
-        Empire in Flames $50-100
-        Realms of Sorcery: 25-50 (more for hardcover than Soft)
-        Apocrypha Now: $20-40
-        Apocrypha II: Chart of Darkness $20-40
-        Most other Warhammer gets between: $10-25


7th Sea
-        The Pirate Nations: $25-50


Cthulhu
-        Delta Green: $50-100
-        Probably a lot of other items (haven't really gotten an opportunity to explore COC)

Shadowrun
-        Bug City, Harlequin, Paranormal Animals of Europe, Universal Brotherhood, Man & Machine: Cyberware, Denver (boxed set), Lone Star, Tir Tairnguire, Tir Na Nog:  All of these fetch above average prices: anywhere from:  $20-50  

Rifts
-        NOTHING!

Rolemaster
-        Nothing stands out

MERP:
-        Too many to mention -- even with the recent "market fallout" (see many previous posts. . . )  they still take in good prices.

Of course, there's more. . . but this will do for now.
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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:02 pm 
 

Heh, heh... had been thinking to do a "what's cheap"/"what's overpriced" thread, although I'm not sure Scott would've approved on the D&D side. *jk* ;)

Nice list. Many thanks for that :)

Some systems/publishers seem to drop dramatically if you go even slightly "off beam".
Warhammer FRP stuff seems to get good money and some other new GW items go for crazy money, IMO ($260 for a single box; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5921340860 !), but their original wargaming rules from 1983 in mint condition box (none too common) are a virtual giveaway.

Hrmmm... And not a single RQ item: how times have changed :(


p.s. Nearly forgot; on the GW side... Talisman Dragons.  :roll:
(like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5914436331 ).
Find a few boxes of surplus stock and retire.... Well almost! :))

  

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:36 pm 
 

harami2000 wrote:Hrmmm... And not a single RQ item: how times have changed :(


RQ is one of the few "old" games that I don't collect (Traveller being the other big one), but I seem to remember a supplement called "Big Rubble" or somesuch going for a lot of money on frp.marketplace back in the day.  I saw some Ral Partha RQ box sets that went for practically nothing recently so it seems the demand for RQ has disappeared.  

A lot of the old FGU items have also suffered a similar fate.  They used to go for some pretty decent money back in the late 90's but now are worth comparatively little on eBay.  

The rare Tekumel items still go for a nice copper: the TSR box set, the Imperial Journals and other 'zines.  

One thing I'm glad I bought a bunch of back in the day is everything CoC; many of those items (Chaosium and non-Chaosium) are worth a lot of money these days.   :D

  


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:43 pm 
 

Aftermath seems to fetch respectable prices.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5921670203

I always thought that it was a fantastic rulesystem.  But the fun seemed to be in generating a character.  It could take days.  And I never got round to playing.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:44 pm 
 

RQ items, in particular the old Chaosium box sets Pavis, Big Rubble, and 1e and 2e pre-AH RQ books in general go for good fundage.


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:04 pm 
 

grodog wrote:RQ items, in particular the old Chaosium box sets Pavis, Big Rubble, and 1e and 2e pre-AH RQ books in general go for good fundage.

*nods*
But less chance of picking up a bargain, no? And the prices haven't increased much (at all?) in a long time, it would seem... (aside from issues of DW which used to be fairly cheap over here).
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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:20 pm 
 

beyondthebreach wrote:
Cthulhu
-        Delta Green: $50-100
-        Probably a lot of other items (haven't really gotten an opportunity to explore COC)



Good idea - I can add with CoC, the old box sets tend to do very well (esp. masks of Nyarlathotep and gaslight), as does the Arkham Horror boardgame, the Cairo Guidebook and many of the older game-books.  Oh and Horror on the Orient Express is worthless - but I will give you a good price (honest...)  ;o)

  


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:39 pm 
 

Adding to Battletech, i was cleaning closet a few years ago and sold the Citytech rules boxset on ebay.  Didn't know if it was worth anything, it ended up going for around $60.


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:28 pm 
 

Great list thanks!
... that will probably restart my reselling career soon.
Know some of those you listed, I probably resold 20 or more Harlequin adventures in the last few years  :D

  

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:12 pm 
 

Forgot to mention:

GURPS:
- Conan: 25-60
- Horseclans: 20-40

Harn:
- Cities of Harn: 15-25
- Son of Cities: 20-30

Traveller:
- Azhanti High Lightning (Boxed Set): 25-50


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:44 pm 
 

A few more examples of the money being spent on (some) "newer" GW items; and thus available for anything deemed "collectable"...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5923025594
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5919380113
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5918927143
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5920062619

$1,300 paid for a collection of Talisman ("purchased" rapidly using BIN)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5922347759
(apparently the seller even got to keep the expansion set boxes... huh?)
, $980 minus the Dragons, but with some boxes...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5920408763
(suspicious bidding... nah!)
, $430 just for the City box. (pretty much a woodgrain, there ;))
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5922324503
and $203 for "City of Adventure" without the box.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5920987474
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Seen enough?
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(even prices for some 3rd edn. stuff look "interesting", shall we say?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5923118688 ??)

  


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:26 pm 
 

beyondthebreach wrote:Forgot to mention:

GURPS:
- Conan: 25-60
- Horseclans: 20-40



GURPS is a risky investment, often when a book starts to get pricey, SJG puts it back into print.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:27 pm 
 

I am stunned by those Talisman prices.

I would have estimated the complete set at $300, the City at 75$ at most.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:03 pm 
 

nn wrote:I am stunned by those Talisman prices.

I would have estimated the complete set at $300, the City at 75$ at most.

Certainly caught me a bit by surprise, when I re-checked recent prices.
Perhaps it should've been obvious (to a degree) from those silly prices for WDs with Talisman inserts!

I'm sure some of those realisations are a bit flukey and/or forced; but mostly, if not all, "real money".
(And that last (3rd edition) auction is still running...).

Could be fun to be had with those, whilst hunting your local games shop for second-hand goods to re-sell... for those of you who do :)

  

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:23 pm 
 

beyondthebreach wrote:Forgot to mention:

GURPS:
- Conan: 25-60
- Horseclans: 20-40

Harn:
- Cities of Harn: 15-25
- Son of Cities: 20-30

Traveller:
- Azhanti High Lightning (Boxed Set): 25-50

A couple more Traveller items (prices approximate):

The Traveller Adventure: 50-75
The Atlas of the Imperium - Grand Survey: 35-50
Alien Modules (6 in the set, each individually): 15-25

All DGP MegaTraveller books are valuable right now due to the high probability of them never being reprinted, due to the copyright owner thinking that the material is more valuable than what it is.  The scuttlebutt in the Traveller community is that the copyright owner was asking somewhere in the low six figures for the rights to the material.  As it stands right now, very few companies can afford that kind of outlay.  Hasbro and White Wolf seem to be the only two that could do it.



  

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:11 am 
 

McDuff wrote:GURPS is a risky investment, often when a book starts to get pricey, SJG puts it back into print.


Now that you mention it, I think I can understand why they are more valuable than others.  Unlike most other GURPS, SJG doesn't own the rights to Conan and Horseclans.  

Conan is owned by Conan Properties and anything published would need to be approved by them (and, they would get their percentage).  I am at work so I don't have a Horseclans book handy, but I think they were published by ACE books (which would be owned by Tom Doherty publishing) & Richard Adams (the author) died several years ago.   In any case, whoever owns the rights to Horseclans, it isn't SJG.  So, not only would Conan and Horseclans have broad crossover appeal, but it is unlikely they would get printed again (unless SJG felt it was worth the investment and the respective copyright owners allowed it).


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:34 am 
 

Traveller wrote:A couple more Traveller items (prices approximate):

The Atlas of the Imperium - Grand Survey: 35-50
Alien Modules (6 in the set, each individually): 15-25



Makes the prices I am selling them for look like bargains :)

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:15 pm 
 

And what are you selling yours for?



  


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:30 pm 
 

Just click on the link to my web page, they are listed under "Uncommon RPGs"

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:22 pm 
 

I can personnally attest to the ridiculous prices that Talisman is going for.  I've been trying to get the 3rd Ed. expansions for months, and they never stay under $100 (if complete).  

As far as that $1300 2nd Ed goes, he got ripped off.  Even if you had to piece it together, you could get all of it for half that if not less.


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