What price glory?! • Page 2 • Collecting General

The Acaeum Forums • Collecting General - Non TSR

What price glory?!
	Page 2 of 4 • 1, 2, 3, 4

Author

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:17 am

Is that a WW PDF or hardcopy you own?
I sold my copy of WW about five years ago. Don't remember much about it now, just that at the time I was focussing my aollection strictly on non-TSR D&D.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

lokiwookie
Sage Collector

Posts: 2505
Joined: Feb 07, 2006
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: France / CitÃ© des Papes

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:32 am

Thanks for the details Mark. Do you still have the email of the author? It would be interesting to ask him more details about the 1st and 2nd ed.

Vault keeper wrote:By the way, there is another OD&Desque RPG that we forgot to mention, it's "Wizard's world" published in 1985:

Anyone interested to exchange this for the "apparently impossible to find online copy" of WPG?

Everyone has his own copy of WW

It is not really HTF and not sought after.

As for Nimolee, I bought it from Mark, as most of owners of this game I guess.

Adventures in Austerion : a fantasy RPG, with boardgame mechanisms and modular battlemap. By Guillaume Tavernier and GÃ©raud G.

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:37 am

My copy of Nimolee will probably be put up on eBay in the New Year. Gonna have another clear out.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

vault keeper
Prolific Collector

Posts: 307
Joined: Oct 27, 2009
Last Visit: Nov 08, 2023

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:00 am

It is likely i will be interested in buying it

As for your previous question, i own a PDF copy of WW.

FormCritic
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6720
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
Last Visit: Sep 30, 2022

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:17 am

Vault keeper wrote:I don't think that only the best survive. I have quite a different opinion about it.

Variant D&D systems (which includes every RPG other than D&D) were generally created either to improve the D&D rules or to accomplish a different gaming purpose....such as realism or some other hobby horse.

D&D survived when the variant games did not because:

1) D&D was the first.
2) D&D was supported by TSR, a more vigorous company.
3) Unless you like riding a particular hobby horse (mostly variant combat rules) D&D is faster and easier to play.

And...this one is not as obvious but it is, nonetheless, quite true:

4) D&D supported a recognizable medieval Western European fantasy setting. Other games often supported settings, genres and time periods not as recognizable and not as popular with the gaming public.

"But I have watched the dragons come, fire-eyed, across the world."

lokiwookie
Sage Collector

Posts: 2505
Joined: Feb 07, 2006
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: France / CitÃ© des Papes

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:04 pm

A pretty good analyze!

Adventures in Austerion : a fantasy RPG, with boardgame mechanisms and modular battlemap. By Guillaume Tavernier and GÃ©raud G.

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:19 pm

There was also the original Book of MARS from IGC, a system that had a stack of chapters removed and was then rewritten/republished by FASA as the common MARS white book, and has subsequently been republished a few other times since, Savage Worlds comes to mind.

The original Book of Mars is surprisingly rare and quite different from the FASA Book of Mars we all ignore on eBay.

I only know of three copies, maybe four.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

lokiwookie
Sage Collector

Posts: 2505
Joined: Feb 07, 2006
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: France / CitÃ© des Papes

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:42 pm

mbassoc2003 wrote:
The original Book of Mars is surprisingly rare and quite different from the FASA Book of Mars we all ignore on eBay.

I only know of three copies, maybe four.

I only saw one on ebay. I can't remember who won it, but it was an Acaeum member.

Do you remember who are the 3 known owners?

Adventures in Austerion : a fantasy RPG, with boardgame mechanisms and modular battlemap. By Guillaume Tavernier and GÃ©raud G.

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:59 pm

Mars has one as far as I know, there was one on eBay to someone here, another sold through NKG, and my copy is on it's way to it's new owner. Aside from these, I would not be surprised if there were copies in a few of the larger more silent collections known to the forum. But those are the four confirmed copies.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

Last edited by mbassoc2003 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.

stratochamp
Verbose Collector

Posts: 1904
Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 24, 2024

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:59 pm

somehow i suspect there are more copies than that floating around; in any event, i have one. i got mine a few years ago, i probably won it on ebay, but i don't remember it having been very expensive.

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:02 pm

Make that five....
A nice little rarity, but probably not a rare as say, Kailfax.
It was the presence of the original mailing cover pristine and intact that made my copy unusual.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

Last edited by mbassoc2003 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

stratochamp
Verbose Collector

Posts: 1904
Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 24, 2024

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:03 pm

and yes, mine has the outer cover.

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:05 pm

Ooh! I'd love to get some details of some of the rarities in your non-TSR collection. Was it you who said he had the Kailfax Supplement Add-on too?

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

stratochamp
Verbose Collector

Posts: 1904
Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 24, 2024

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:31 pm

i do have kalifax, and now that you mention it i do remember some discussion of some copies not having everything that some other copies had, but i don't think it should be described as an add-on per se.

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:20 pm

Would like a more detailed comparison of those.
Would be interesting to find out if the front cover sheets are identical and if there are any title page differences, or whether the additional material is added on as a seperately identifiable entity.
Kalifax appears to be one of the rarest items I've come accross in the non-TSR side of things.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

stratochamp
Verbose Collector

Posts: 1904
Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 24, 2024

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:07 pm

Since you asked Ian, I thought I'd throw together a quick fun list
of some of the more obscure frp items in my collection:
(1.) One Step Beyond (1987-Aggressor Games)
(2.) Age of Chivalry, The (1978-Avant-Garde Simulations Pub.)
(3.) In Search of the Abominable Snowman (1983-Black Dragon Games)
(4.) World of Guderia (#21/25 1995-Derry, Michael)
(5.) Functional Role-Playing:The Dice-Less System(1989-DiGiacomo, Ant.)
(6.) Tombs of Blah, Blah, Blah, The (1985-Dreamworlds Ltd)
(7.) Morpheus (Prototype Box) (1989-Durham, Devin)
(8.) Rescue the Princess (1985-Gamers Liberation Front)
(9.) Stone of Sandor, The (1980-Hayes, Martin)
(10.)Dungeon Cards (1981-SWS Games)(Small Cloth Pouch)
(11.)Bandit Pack A (through F) (1981-TAF Enterprizes)
(12.)Outime: Operation Guardian (1983-Valhalla Simulation Games)

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:35 pm

stratochamp wrote:
(1.) One Step Beyond (1987-Aggressor Games)
(2.) Age of Chivalry, The (1978-Avant-Garde Simulations Pub.)
(3.) In Search of the Abominable Snowman (1983-Black Dragon Games)
(4.) World of Guderia (#21/25 1995-Derry, Michael)
(5.) Functional Role-Playing:The Dice-Less System(1989-DiGiacomo, Ant.)
(6.) Tombs of Blah, Blah, Blah, The (1985-Dreamworlds Ltd)
(7.) Morpheus (Prototype Box) (1989-Durham, Devin)
(8.) Rescue the Princess (1985-Gamers Liberation Front)
(9.) Stone of Sandor, The (1980-Hayes, Martin)
(10.)Dungeon Cards (1981-SWS Games)(Small Cloth Pouch)
(11.)Bandit Pack A (through F) (1981-TAF Enterprizes)
(12.)Outime: Operation Guardian (1983-Valhalla Simulation Games)

What a wonderfull family! If you get the time, I'd really like to see some pics of them (especially Morpheus and Functional RPG).

Adventures in Austerion : a fantasy RPG, with boardgame mechanisms and modular battlemap. By Guillaume Tavernier and GÃ©raud G.

mbassoc2003
Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6997
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 25, 2024
Location: UK

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:27 am

Love to see piccies of those.
The only one I've heard of is Rescue the Princess.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

The Acaeum Forums • Collecting General - Non TSR

Page 2 of 4 • 1, 2, 3, 4