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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:41 am 
 

Looks like Pathfinder is selling as well as 4e now 8O

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/18504.html

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:09 am 
 

Hiya,

in the UK, I would guess Pathfinder has been out-performing 4th Ed for quite a while now.

Interesting on the Dresden Files as well - was thinking of picking up the DVD - does anyone know if its any good?

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:58 am 
 

PF is certainly an anomily here in the UK. Seems to be in stock everywhere, but none of the local gaming groups play it. Wondering if it's being picked up more by the teenage crowd than the 20/30 somethings?

4E seems to have taken a backseat in most of the FLGSs up here (Scotland) if POS is anything to go by. Warhammer still doing roaring business also. War Machine snapping at their tails.


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:09 am 
 

8O

I guess AotC reinventing the game as 4E really was a mistake.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:26 am 
 

This is extremely amusing. I got a thread locked on DF for suggesting that Pathfinder was going to outpace 4e. I was assured that pathfinder sales are only 1/100th of 4e sales. Personally I think that there was a confusion between the gross sales of WotC and the gross sales of only the 4e division of WotC. It would be interesting to see dollar totals.


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:17 am 
 

Sardan wrote:AotC

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:40 am 
 

Hi,

last year at Spiel I sold 12 x 3.5 ed phbs at roughly $50 a pop.

Didnt sell any 4th ed, despite the 4th phbs being roughly $15

I very rarely get Pathfinder in stock (I only buy 2nd hand items) as people dont part with it.

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:16 am 
 

lawrenson wrote:Hiya,

in the UK, I would guess Pathfinder has been out-performing 4th Ed for quite a while now.

Interesting on the Dresden Files as well - was thinking of picking up the DVD - does anyone know if its any good?

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:33 am 
 

We play pathfinder and our local FLGS seems to always be selling out of it, but they always have 4th ed in stock :?


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:54 am 
 

I wonder if Paizo's sales are outpacing WotC (not including Hasbro) if you include everything they release or sell from their site.

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:04 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:I wonder if Paizo's sales are outpacing WotC (not including Hasbro) if you include everything they release or sell from their site.

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I know 3 people that buy exclusively from the Paizo webiste (I tend to go to amazon for the discount  :) )  they tell me they want to support Paizo so they dole out the full retail from the website.  Sounds weird but it is true. :?


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:32 pm 
 

I'm reading through the PF Core Rulebook and I'm not surprised. The quality of PF will retain Paizo some decent market share. Is Paizo really positioned as the only 3e publisher now?
But I'm wondering if the revenue totals for WotC 4e would include 4e miniatures sales. I think the minis sales would affect the numbers.

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:17 pm 
 

puterdragon wrote:I'm reading through the PF Core Rulebook and I'm not surprised. The quality of PF will retain Paizo some decent market share. Is Paizo really positioned as the only 3e publisher now?
But I'm wondering if the revenue totals for WotC 4e would include 4e miniatures sales. I think the minis sales would affect the numbers.

(Runelords AP is getting htf locally now.)


The new miniature line for WOTC is doing terribly.  They cancelled the game that went with it and reduced the quality substatially. Many of the fans of the old line are not supporting the new junk.


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:28 pm 
 

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I know 3 people that buy exclusively from the Paizo webiste (I tend to go to amazon for the discount  :) )  they tell me they want to support Paizo so they dole out the full retail from the website.  Sounds weird but it is true. :?


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:23 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:This is extremely amusing. I got a thread locked on DF for suggesting that Pathfinder was going to outpace 4e.

Um, no, that thread was locked because DF doesn't handle either 4e or Pathfinder, so it was completely off topic for the site. Deal with it.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:34 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote:Um, no, that thread was locked because DF doesn't handle either 4e or Pathfinder, so it was completely off topic for the site. Deal with it.


Naw Frank, it got locked because it was a bit of a ruckus. Sure it was off-topic as hell for DF but the mods were pretty much letting it slide on the general discussion forum as they do most topics there. I don't think I'd bothered to reply to the pro-4e/WotC guy for a couple of days but after poking him a couple of times earlier he really couldn't let things go.


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:45 pm 
 

Careful Jason. You could get banned from there for a week for discussing DF moderation here. Steve gets rather prickly when you do stuff like that. :roll:

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:31 am 
 

JasonZavoda wrote: I got a thread locked on DF for suggesting that Pathfinder was going to outpace 4e. I was assured that pathfinder sales are only 1/100th of 4e sales.


Both are characteristic of DF. I've read and participated in a number of threads over there which deal with sales comparisons - how well one line is doing or did in the past. Always there is someone who insists on some absurd premise or other. I wonder if it's the same person? And of course, the constant thread locking.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:04 am 
 

Well, in Italy Pathfinder is going very, very well - despite the fact that the core rulebook has been criticized for 'a lot' of errors - and it was sold out in three months (but please note that in Italy print runs are very small). In my store I do a roaring business for D&D 3.5 and 3.0, lackluster sales for D&D 4.0, good sales for Pathfinder. I have big hopes for the new Essentials line, but I can say with reasonable convinction that in Italy, too, D&D 4.0 does not sell - considering the affection my country has for D&D, this is real trouble for the Italian publisher and WotC. A friend of mine that has some links with French publishers told me that in France D&D 4.0 in retail terms 'sucks'. Never forget, Italy is an amazingly conservative country in games too.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:39 am 
 

Blackmoor wrote:
The new miniature line for WOTC is doing terribly.  They cancelled the game that went with it and reduced the quality substatially. Many of the fans of the old line are not supporting the new junk.


Good to get your  read on this. Sounds like 3e minis could enjoy a steady (but slow) increase in value then. I think I read somewhere that Paizo was producing minis now/soon.
Also, I've been thinking 3.75e Paizo'd be my first choice for adventure submissions--4e WotC and GG being further down.


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