JohnGaunt wrote:What are we becoming, Dragonsfoot? "Largest" and "impressive" are similar but definitely different in meaning. "Largest" is sheer physical size, quantity, or scope; "impressive" can mean anything breathtaking.LargestTroll LordsCastle Zagyg: Upper Works is a huge amount of books and maps. The CZ modules/supplements make the area around the castle even larger in scope.Adventure Games Publishing released a large number of booklets for Castles & Crusades. While they were individually small booklets, the sum total is large.PaizoPathfinder has a massive Core Rulebook, Bestiary, and Gamemaster Guide. The four-panel DM screen is thicker than most RPG supplements.AEGWorld's Largest Dungeon is a thick book and lots o' maps.Goodman GamesCastle Whiterock is a big box o' goodies.Gazetteer of the Known Realms pretty much sums it up.Impressive for me includes all of the above plus every ruleset and module made for modern simulacra, retro-clone, and old-school. Trying to re-capture the magic of the D&D in a ruleset is impressive. I may not buy all of it, but the quality, effort, and chutzpah impress me.
Badmike wrote:Personal Favorites, either under the "large" or "impressive" category, that IMO provide great RPG goodness no matter the game or edition:Ruins of UndermountainNight BelowGriffin Mountain/Griffin IslandBig RubblePavisRappan Athuk ReloadedPtolusCastle WhiterockCastle ZagygBeyond the Mountains of MadnessMasks of NyarlathotepHorror On the Orient ExpressShackled CityReturn to Tomb of HorrorsGDQ1-7 Queen of the SpidersCSOIOI concur that Worlds Largest Dungeon is the Worlds Largest Barf Bag. While 3E items lik RAR and Castle Whiterock are readable (and usable) on their own merits, even to players of earlier editions, WLD isn't even that. It's nearly impossilbe to read through (haven't ever been able to do it) and doesn't have a tenth of the charm, wit, intelligence or D&D lovableness of the others. It looks, reads and feels like a dungeon constructed by a committee (which it is anyway).Mike B.
Keith the Thief wrote:Some questions --Ruins of Undermountain -- Is this Forgotten Realms?Castle Whiterock -- Goodman does good stuff, but haven't read this. Castle Zagyg -- I was disappointed in this. There was no castle in their castle (unless there's been an expansion)Beyond the Mountains of Madness -- Would love to read this. CoC?GDQ1-7 Queen of the Spiders -- Local bookstore has it in VG condition for $80. Is it worth it?CSOIO -- my sentimental favorite. Wish I had a usable copy. Mine's a collectible. And a new one I'm impressed with is --WG13 Castle of the Mad ArchmageIt's compatible with OSRIC, S&W, D&D, AD&D, LL, etc.
mbassoc2003 wrote:These are ten a penny. You should be able to pick up a cheep used copy on eBay, or just download the PDF from RPGNow for $2 and print it out. I have changed my opinion over the intervening years, and now lean more towards the NG reprints of CSIO and Wilderlands, than the JG original. Indeed, I have just got rid of all my Wilderlands JD 1sts. The jury is still out on the other reprints.
serleran wrote:Isn't Champions 4th edition (maybe its the 3rd) a very large phone book of rules?
Keith the Thief wrote:Had no idea they were available in PDF!"Excellent", as Mr. Burns would say.
ashmire13 wrote:I'd say anything except Castle Zagyg UW is available as pdf. And maybe Ptolus?
serleran wrote:I'm also going to throw out a vote for Warhammer Quest. It comes with a 128+ page Role Play Book so it could, theoretically, be played as a RPG without the boards, but even then it has tons of magic item cards, random event cards, a built-in random dungeon system, a crapton of monsters (in the Role Play Book) and well over 100 monster miniatures. And, for $70 when it debuted, as I recall.. now, a complete one tends to be a little higher, but I am impressed by it. Perhaps my favorite board (with RPG elements) game.I think it qualifies for this discussion.
serleran wrote:Not according to Monte Cook unless it was pulled down when the d20 license was revoked.
TheHistorian wrote:Indeed, a few come to mind for other games:Call Of Cthulhu - Beyond The Mountains Of Madness, Horror On The Orient Express, and of course, Masks Of Nyarlathotep....
JasonZavoda wrote:For Castle Zagyg are you thinking of the hardcover book or the Upper Works boxed set. (You mist be talking about the book).CSIO which one do you have? There are what, 4 distinct JG printings, Mayfair games set, and the Necromancer edition.
TheHistorian wrote:We're working on it! There will be a map pack that should improve the situation!