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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:12 pm 
 

faro wrote:Or closer to 1939 if the note from Leiber that I PM'd you is /precise/ vs. the usual 1937 date. :)
You know who to ask... and where that fits in the literary chronology.


Yes, I saw the note, and I was aware that the rudiments of Nehwon/Lankhmar were established between Leiber and Fischer through correspondence in the '30s... But, I've never seen anything to suggest that an original map survives, or if one ever existed. Obviously Leiber had some sense of the geography, but whether he was going from something concrete... I dunno. Maybe I've missed something. I guess I'll have to employ my "enthusiasm" as you put it.

Yes, I know where that fits into the literary chronology. Before it.

Gotta remember the books have a somewhat similar relationship to the game as the likes of Magira some 30 years later when roleplaying was on the way back in again.


Please explain. Not familiar with "Magira".


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:02 pm 
 

Magira was the setting for a series of fantasy novels by Hugh Walker aka Hubert Strassl.  They were based on a long running war game played at conventions.


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:45 am 
 

yaya wrote:Magira was the setting for a series of fantasy novels by Hugh Walker aka Hubert Strassl.  They were based on a long running war game played at conventions.


Ah, thank you. An Amazon search turned up the DAW paperbacks.

I'm don't see the analogy between Magira and Nehwon at all.


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:03 am 
 

So who was the illustrator of the map, since you alluded that you knew who it was...?

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:14 pm 
 

Oh, sorry, thought I mentioned it. It was drawn by Jim Cawthorn, a British comic and fantasy artist and historian who did some early Michael Moorcock book covers (I think he did the cover for the first edition of Stormbringer) and suchlike. He also wrote a book with Michael Moorcock, Fantasy: The 100 Best Books, for which as I understand it he did most of the actual writing. He passed away in 2008. I haven't really looked any deeper into his background than that, but a little googling turned up that much. I don't think there was a wikipedia page.


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:25 pm 
 

I just hung up the map (out of reach of children, out of direct sunlight, of course). Here are a couple of photos in case anyone is interested. I'm tempted to have it reframed, but the frame was professionally done and stamped with the year (1963), so I figure it's part of the provenance...

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/metamorphosissigma/Picture001.jpg?t=1276190673

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/metamorphosissigma/Picture002.jpg?t=1276190798


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