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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:33 am

RWilson wrote:But the best part was making the guy who played Gilthanas make out with the dragon in the stream.

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Wait...what?!

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:35 am

DungeonDelver wrote:The Wilderness Survival Guide and in an unsurprising tie, the Dungeoneer's Survival Guide.

Coming up second, everything ever created after 1st edition AD&D.

Ditto on the WSG and DSG. Absolute crap.

I'd go along with your second point, with the exception of Goodman Games and some of Necromancer Games' stuff (like Necropolis).

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:52 am

DungeonDelver wrote:
RWilson wrote:But the best part was making the guy who played Gilthanas make out with the dragon in the stream.

...

Wait...what?!

Come on! YOU remember! The Gilthanas character HAD to fall in love with the silver dragon. IT SAID SO in the book! The blue one.

"I have to WHAT?"
" You heard me. The Silver Dragon/Elf Pornstar has initiated her reproductive cycle. Apparently her biological clock is ticking. Roll your saving throw or take 5-20 from crushing damage."
"Mom!!!....."

I didn't like Oriental Adventures very much, either. It seemed to disintegrate as soon as I brought it home. Overall, I found a lot of orange spines had binding trouble.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:19 pm

bombadil wrote:
DungeonDelver wrote:The Wilderness Survival Guide and in an unsurprising tie, the Dungeoneer's Survival Guide.

Coming up second, everything ever created after 1st edition AD&D.

Ditto on the WSG and DSG. Absolute crap.

I'd go along with your second point, with the exception of Goodman Games and some of Necromancer Games' stuff (like Necropolis).

Well I meant by TSR or Wallet$ of the Co$t, but yeah, Necromancer and Goodman do some okay(ish) stuff. Goodman sells the look and the look only, though. There's nothing really old-school about their mods once you get past the surface (IMO).

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:35 pm

Fortunately I have a wife you lets me pretty much buy what I like...

Me wife lets me get whatever I want, and that's the damn problem. If she doesn't control my spending, who in the 9 Hells will? The cat? The damn cat keeps trying to convince me to buy the 30th Anniversary set!

And on the topic of bad TSR stuff...

I was so disappointed with the Menzoberranzan box set. WTF is with the damn portraits? And the map of the city... damn bad acid tripp (or hallucinary terrain with a splash of prismatic spray).

Let's be honest here. The reason I stopped buying Dungeons & Dragons stuff was so many of the products started to have high volumes of fluff in them. I missed out on some good things because I hated feeling taken. I'm this way to the day when it comes to RPG material.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:05 pm

That's EXACTLY why I love the old stuff so much. It is so bare bones and to the point. It is all about creativity and really, as kids, whether you are aware of it or not, one of the best things is to be trusted and who was more trusting than Gygax and those guys? It was all about "here's an idea, now go make it your own."

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:26 pm

The DL adventure that had Elmore's 'Teka takes a Bath" (full nude) pen & ink drawing has to be one of the worst...

What, you don't have that one?
Well, I have a copy of the illo, at least.
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:06 pm

ExTSR wrote:The DL adventure that had Elmore's 'Teka takes a Bath" (full nude) pen & ink drawing has to be one of the worst...

What, you don't have that one?
Well, I have a copy of the illo, at least.
No, I'm Evil, I don't share.

That's why you're the man.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:25 pm

The worst product ever would be...... 3E.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:32 pm

Zippanthropus wrote:
Am I the only geek who checks this site like 10 times a day?

No, I am currently not working (at a real job anyway) so I check probably 10-15 times a day. Maybe it's because I'm fairly new here, or maybe it's because my inner geek has finally been let free, who knows.

Worst product ever? So far, my vote goes to anything Spelljammer related. Guess by the number of books and modules I see in original shrink many others felt the same way!

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:34 pm

Deadlord39 wrote:The worst product ever would be...... 3E.

3E doesn't count! (Neither does the Dungeons & Dragons movie

)

Pick something else . . .

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:20 pm

Oh, I forgot, 3E isn't a D&D product. Sorry.
I would say Dragonlance. Completely useless. Just read the books.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:27 pm

I didn't like the DL books either. The only reason I read the first three was due to the fact that I was stuck in bed in Belize for a week or so.

Worst Product: Player's Screen. Told a player to take a walk when he insisted that he roll his dice behind his screen. Also, many of those "Complete X" books. How many times did I hear, "But on page X it says that I have the ability to Y!"?

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:51 pm

Zippanthropus wrote:I didn't like the DL books either. The only reason I read the first three was due to the fact that I was stuck in bed in Belize for a week or so.

Worst Product: Player's Screen. Told a player to take a walk when he insisted that he roll his dice behind his screen. Also, many of those "Complete X" books. How many times did I hear, "But on page X it says that I have the ability to Y!"?

The complete books really sucked. As a DM I was unable to keep up with everything in them so the players which specialized in classes always had the upper hand. I ended up banning all but the core books for 2nd ed! A few players were really chocked and quit the game, no matter people were lining up to play in my campaign at the time.

Even worse than those books were the Players option Books; really they started the end of 2nd ed being playable for me!!

J

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:20 pm

Yes, the "Complete (insert random)" books. That's what I was referring to earlier. Major suckage.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:22 pm

TigerKing wrote:Yes, the "Complete (insert random)" books. That's what I was referring to earlier. Major suckage.

I remember way back when I bought the Dark Sun box set at the local gaming store. The clerk told me that the Complete Psionics Handbook was required for play. So I bought it. Ended up never playing Dark Sun anyway.

Never opened the Complete Psionics Handbook again either. To this date the only other one I've bought was the Complete Necromancer.

So yeah, I dont really like them either. :twisted:

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:55 pm

I think that The Complete Necromancer's Handbook is actually worth money.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:56 pm

dcas wrote:I think that The Complete Necromancer's Handbook is actually worth money.

Your right that was a good one!!

Games can get you through times of no money but money can not get you through times of no games!!

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