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Post Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:11 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:No worries about me throwing out any books.  The only way I could bring myself to throw out a D&D book is if it has some irremovable bodily fluid such as the 3 Ps.  I was going to be witty and say that if someone gave me a 3rd edition D&D book, I would throw it out, but that wouldn't count because thats not really a D&D book anyway. :P


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:11 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Pee, Poop, & Puke(keeping it as clean as possible). :wink:  Those 3 would religate a book to the trash.  I imagine that if some how bile or an over amount of phlemage(is this even a word?  :lol: ) was involved that might make them trash worthy as well.

Those are all forms of acid damage.  Perhaps I need to move acid down to "Poor" with the fire types:  :?
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:17 am 
 

I never had a problem of OA falling apart. UA, not enough duck-tape to hold that mother together. I found that OE to be poorly written, but I love UA.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:33 am 
 

Zippanthropus wrote:I never had a problem of OA falling apart. UA, not enough duck-tape to hold that mother together. I found that OE to be poorly written, but I love UA.

My OA is in fairly pristine condition.  (That's a new one for the eBay listings -- "fairly pristine" = "not falling apart".)  I bought it just to complete my orange spines.  UA tends to suffer more because it was actually used.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:21 pm 
 

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Zippanthropus wrote:I never had a problem of OA falling apart. UA, not enough duck-tape to hold that mother together. I found that OE to be poorly written, but I love UA.

My OA is in fairly pristine condition.  (That's a new one for the eBay listings -- "fairly pristine" = "not falling apart".)  I bought it just to complete my orange spines.  UA tends to suffer more because it was actually used.


We have a "Frankenstein" OA with two 1/4" bolts holding the pages into the cover :lol:

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:48 pm 
 

UA tends to suffer more because it was actually used.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:50 pm 
 

My OA is fine, aside from it being *upside down/back to front* in the binding.

I just found one of Talisman boards though has mild dew on it :-(  (have to try to figure out how to deal with that when I'm back in the UK :/).


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:30 pm 
 

I haven't encountered binding problems with any 1st edition rule books.  Both my OA and UA are prefectly intact (aside from cover/corner wear) despite spending over 10 years in a backpack that I took almost everywhere.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:45 pm 
 

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red_dawn wrote:Deities & Demigods

Wow, that surprises me. I always thought that Deities was a great product — there was lots of cool artwork, some educational stuff about some religions I knew nothing about, and, of course, lots of bitchin' power-gaming stats. And, remember, the edition with the Cthulhu and Elric listings is really Super-Mondo-Way-Rare ... you can get, like, $1,000 for one. It was "banned," you know ... 8O

But your point about the runaway munchkin-ism is dead-on. That book just seemed to bring out the worst in everyone (bitch-slapping Elric and getting my hands on an official AD&D version of Stormbringer was one of my goals). I would argue that that sort of rampant power-gaming was more of a reflection on the players rather than the book, though. YMMV, of course.


OK, I was being a bit dramatic. The DDG isn't completely without merit. The art work is excellent, and the Ability Stat tables beyond 18 were helpful. I have to admit that it is still part of my collection.  :oops:

But the powergaming blame rests squarely on TSR... and yes, maybe Gygax with the set-piece Lolth fight (as MShipley88 pointed out) -- though I feel that's a special case, since that was the culmination of the A, G, & D series modules; an epic campaign surely.

With the average deity description in the DDG being virtually all combat stats, TSR was giving official sanction to said power-gaming. It was left to the DM to block this move, and to fill out the paltry clergy info in the DDG appendix.

OK, DDG isn't the worst AD&D product... but it set a poor precedent. From a roleplay perspective, the 2nd edition Legends & Lore was much more useful.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:16 pm 
 

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Am I the only geek who checks this site like 10 times a day?


Nope... I check it about 10 times a day myself!

  

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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:34 pm 
 

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Am I the only geek who checks this site like 10 times a day?


Nope... I check it about 10 times a day myself!


Wish I could cut down to ten  :lol:


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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:02 pm 
 

Marlith wrote:
sheeadog wrote:
Nope... I check it about 10 times a day myself!


Wish I could cut down to ten  :lol:


i check about 50+ times  :oops:



  


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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:04 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:i check about 50+ times  :oops:

And post on 49 of those occasions. :wink:

Kidding, kidding! All in good-natured fun ...

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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:05 pm 
 

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killjoy32 wrote:i check about 50+ times  :oops:

And post on 49 of those occasions. :wink:

Kidding, kidding! All in good-natured fun ...


ya know, youre prb right - i dont have a life, so i gotta do something with it! :)

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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:40 pm 
 

Wake up. S, S & S. Get coffee. Check Acaeum. Wake up kids...everything begins to go south from there.


And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:26 pm 
 

Re-reading some old posts, looks like BadMike doesn't care for my work.

'sall right. I don't write to please everyone; that way lies madness.


Somebody else liked DL for the 'first 3d dungeon views, 'way kewl'...

Sorry; that was my idea, in R1 Falx; Steve Sullivan did the maps, at my direction. 3d was used thereafter in many products.

  

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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:54 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote:Re-reading some old posts, looks like BadMike doesn't care for my work.

'sall right. I don't write to please everyone; that way lies madness.


Somebody else liked DL for the 'first 3d dungeon views, 'way kewl'...

Sorry; that was my idea, in R1 Falx; Steve Sullivan did the maps, at my direction. 3d was used thereafter in many products.


Your stuff was very good!!


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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:06 pm 
 

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ExTSR wrote:Re-reading some old posts, looks like BadMike doesn't care for my work.

'sall right. I don't write to please everyone; that way lies madness.


Somebody else liked DL for the 'first 3d dungeon views, 'way kewl'...

Sorry; that was my idea, in R1 Falx; Steve Sullivan did the maps, at my direction. 3d was used thereafter in many products.


Your stuff was very good!!


i quite like R1 and R2 - must get around to playing them with the group sometime.

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