Products replicated verbatim, TSR copyright, but these are "by Bill Logan" and (c) DwD Studios.
And they all cost real money.

No valid citation present (like "Licensed by Wizards of the Coast Inc., (c) and TM WotC).

I think this Bill Logan is in for a world of hurt.

sauromatian wrote:

FormCritic wrote:I don't see Hasbro compromising any part of their intellectual property.

Of course you don't see it .

But, of course, I did not mean that I can literally see anything.  I don't foresee Hasbro surrendering any portion of their intellectual property.

FormCritic wrote: I don't foresee Hasbro surrendering any portion of their intellectual property.

Another inadvertently correct statement. No one here (openly) represents Hasbro's legal interests. Vigilante justice can sometimes cause problems for the intended beneficiary. Right now there is a county in Florida undergoing a major crapstorm because some sad, lonely weirdo wanted to help out by indulging his fantasies of being a cop.

p.s. I realize that I used the word "inadvertently," which contains "ent." Those who believe they represent the true spirit of Tolkien, or who otherwise suffer from a limited understanding of human interactions, may wish to chastise me for it.

Hi, I'm new here, but I wanted to pipe in on the Star Frontiers issue - it's been going on for a lot longer than a decade. In the mid-90's someone from TSR gave permission to the members of the Star Frontiers listserv to copy and reprint game materials. At the time all it amounted to was making pdfs and printing them for use at mini-cons. I don't know how this evolved into a license to print books, or if it's even legit at this point, but that's what I remember.

IIRC the official SF listserv wasn't hosted in-house by TSR, and died before WotC took over - so it's not archived at http://oracle.wizards.com/archives/ After that, the list switched servers a couple times over the course of a year or two, so it's hard as heck to track down the source of all this, as well as some of the great stuff that showed up on those listservs. Hopefully if anyone is interested this will give them some sort of lead, however thin and shaky, on the truth of the matter.

Edit: and reading his explanation on starfrontiers.com, it jibes with what I remember. It also reminded me though that some on the listserv wanted to get together and outright buy the license, but the price was ridiculously out of range.

Gentlemen.  I had a question.   I am in the process of sellling a large portion of my collection on Ebay.   Amoung the items I have not listed yet is a copy of the Gencon 2000 D&D Open Tournament the Citadel.   My team finished in 3rd place in the Open that year.   The tournament judges who assembled the teams and sent everyone off to the tables Julie, gave our team members each copies of the adventure after the tournament was over.  I believe I am the only team member who still has a copy.   We had asked her for copies of the adventure after the trounament was over.   My copy was used in the open tournament that year.   It is just a three ring punched copy run off on a photo copier by WOTC staff at the time i'm sure.  It contains no writing.

This has never been "leaked" or "copied" to the Internet by anyone as far as I know.   Grogdog doesn't even have the name's of the round's for instance on his Greyhawkonline.com  

They are by the way:   Whipser of Trouble Round 1, The Other Point of View Round 2, The Truth Revealed Round 3.

The 3 part tourney uses the Circle of Eight characters: Mordenkainen the Mage Level 10, Robilar Level 8, Bigby the Mage level 7, Riggby the Patriarch Level 7, Yrag Level 8, Otis Level 7.  The tournament only used 6 characters.   I have the character sheets as well.   

Can I sell this?

Never mind then.  It wasn't even the open tourney that was Finger of the Wind after looking it up.   I have Finger of the Wind as well somewhere in the pile.

stephenf wrote:Can I sell this?

Did you sign anything that might have amounted to a non-disclosure agreement? Did the judges?

This chap seems to have made quite a bit of cash selling items such as this:


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Not an RPG but here is another counterfitter on ebay. Hasbro owns the copyright to Panzer-Blitz and Multi-Man is licensing it to produce new Panzerblitz games (one is out already).

This is a new ebay id for this guy. He also uses others with 2x in the name. As with the Victory Games DvD bootleg of the James Bond games (another defunct Avalon Hill title) these guys are selling bootleg DvD pdfs of Avalon Hill games.