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Post Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:57 pm 
 

I'm moving this month, and while going through some boxes of my personal collection I came upon a cache of SW AD&D modules...nothing rare, just stuff like the U series, L series, etc.  I wracked my brains but could not for the life of me remember why I put these in my personal collection and not for sale, as A) I have very nice copies of these already, and B) My nice copies aren't SW so I can actually read through them or use them and C) I have the PDF's of most of these anyway, so if I want to use the material it's right on my computer!  
  This got me thinking, unlike I'm sure a lot of collectors I'm not very enamored of SW items unless it's for eventual resale.  For the life of me, I can't see buying something that I can't use, or not use without destroying the intrinsic value by removing said SW.  Don't even get me started on Slabbed Comics (I could go on a rant about this one for days...).  Anyway, why collect a SW copy of a module or game unless it's for eventual resale?  Is there really any other reason except to say "Hey, look, I have one of those in my collection that's COMPLETELY UNTOUCHED BY HUMAN HANDS."  
   In my years as a buyer and seller of RPG items, I've run into collectors that not only want only SW or Mint items, but many times they want multiple copies---for their own collection (like, a SW copy for my hardcore collection, then a NM copy for my decent collection, and an average copy for my "use" collection).  Unless it's for investment purposes, is there some other reason I'm overlooking?  
    This is not even bringing up the fact that unscrupulous resellers will often re-shrink items and sell them as "original SW".   It reminds me of the fake autographs that are prevalent in many sports memorabilia shops....a local news team once calculated that up to 50% of so-called authenticated autographs of sports celebrities are fakes (they bought a couple of thousand dollars worth of autographed items from local stores and had an expert authenticate them, over half were fake).  And if you are only going to collect items in SW and never remove the SW, does it even matter if it was re-shrinked? How would you even know?  Or do most of you buy the SW items and then remove the SW?  
    Ok, so the questions for discussion are: Do you prefer SW RPG items for your personal collection?  Are you getting them SW for eventual resale, investment purposes, or just because they look really cool in the crinkly wrap?  Do you have a SW copy for your collection and another copy for your own use? And if you do buy SW items, do you eventually open them for your own use like a 50 year old bottle of rare wine?  I always feel slightly guilty when I open a SW item like this, years ago I opened a SW U1 because I wanted to run a new group I had through it and I couldn't find my personal copy, and I only had a few hours to prepare....I felt guilty as hell and it was mine to begin with!!!!

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Post Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 12:46 am 
 

The shrink wrap issue (Dark & Hidden Ways: New Records)

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Post Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:17 pm 
 

Run for the Alamo, BadMike!

Some of the fellas are roundin' up a posse right now for the transgression of opening that U1. 8O


And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

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Post Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:15 pm 
 

Loathe though I am to agree with ("it's our way or the highway") bbarsh - I have to agree with him on this point.   I have posted my views on the dubious merits of 'shrink' on various acaeum threads over the years...  let me again reprise them:

Collecting shrinkwrap is weird and unnatural because:

(1)  as a collector you never know in what condition the module really is. To put it another way, 'mint in shrink' is a logical contradiction in terms, as you can never know just what it is like (e.g. mould, staple rust etc..) until you un-shrink it.

(2)  you remember as a gamer it is always the really weird blokes who wanted to keep their books 'untouched' - you know what I mean.  There is a difference between wanting a really great condition book (mint) and wanting one that is unsullied by human hands ("you weirdos!"!)

(3)  there is (I suppose) an argument that 'shrink' is better for the purely commercial collector.  Well, I would rather deal with the passionate collector than the soulless speculator anyday.  Anyway - shouldn't you be investing in stocks and shares instead?

So free yourselves and cast off that nasty plastic!!

  

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Post Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 8:13 pm 
 

Ah yes, red_bus, you must have read that book at last! :D

Not too sure about the "loathing" thing, though.


And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

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Post Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:33 pm 
 

I've opened several shrinkwrapped items that I've bought over the years, and I'm quite likely to do so again, especially if it's GH stuff! :D


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Post Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:26 am 
 

ho ho !!  no offence meant - it is a colloquial term (over here)..  I haven't read your suggested text, but I did recently read a book by Robert Kagan (Paradise and Power) which, judging by your earlier posts, you might be interested in.  I wouldn't say I agree with all his points but it is worth a look.


Am a bit of a luddite, but nevertheless will attempt to insert book link now...

amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/184354177 ... 25-0006246

hey! i think it worked!

  

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Post Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 3:35 pm 
 

I will take a look. No one ever learned anything from reading a single book! Of course, I've read a lot, and some would say I better keep at it .... :D


And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

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Post Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 3:56 pm 
 

I have purchased a few SW items and I always open them.  How else do you read them?  :)  The only ones I might keep in the shrink wrap would be if I happen to find any of the modules that have cardboard headers on them.

Also, I'd like to point out that I am sure the acid content on the shrink wrapping is not conducive to long term storage.  In other words, since it's been about 20 - 30 years now, there is probably quite a bit of yellowing of the pages going on inside there.

I just pray to god that there is never a gaming version of the Comic Book Grading company!  They have single handily ruined that industry.  But that's so off topic, I'll stop now.

  
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