Are my services required here? I am ready and willing to answer the call to doody!

If the sellers shill kipironbeard shows up in the above auction, yes!!!

I bet the greedy fucker drives it over a thousand!

muaddib5 wrote:D&D basic box set (white box) 1974 + bonus
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=44112

This one's got just over an hour and a half left at it's only at $91.00   !!

Here's another one:
1974 Dungeons & Dragons TSR White Boxed 3 volume set
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=44112

About 45 minutes left at it's only at $67.00.

Iluvdnd to the rescue!

Deadlord36 wrote:Whoops. Forgot about that negative. Time to change ID's.

ROFL..........

I am more than willing to accept that thebb725 is not a shill...and if you look at his bidding history, he does have many of the mannerisms of a person just getting back into the hobby. The issue in all of this is that white box auction that he won and was then offered to DavidVanWie with a second chance. I would still like to have that one explained to me.

neilflora201 is also in the same boat. His conduct could also just be explained away as a person returning the hobby...but once again there is that same thorny issue of David's second chance offer.

However, it would take a lot to convince me that kipironbeard is not a shill.

-PD

I had a question about this item:

muaddib5 wrote:D&D basic box set (white box) 1974 + bonus
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=44112

This one's got just over an hour and a half left at it's only at $91.00  8O !!

It lists (and shows) dice and I wanted to get a sense of if those dice came with the original set or if those were the "bonus".  Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd

I would suggest that the way to correctly handle shills as a SELLER would be to disregard any non-paying shillers, report them to Ebay and offer the first non-shill bidder the win at the price just above the highest NON-shill bid.

So, if an auction looks like this at the end.

MrShill (0)       $51.50
ShillBoy(-1)     $50.00
Mr.Shill (0)       $49.00
RealBuyer(123) $48.00
Shillboy (-1)       $46.00
RealBuyer(123)  $45.00
ShillBoy(-1)        $35.00
Honestdood(166)   $34.00
ShillBoy(0)           $33.00
...

You should sell the item to 'RealBuyer' for $35.00 (if he wants it) since there's a non shiller in there willing to pay 34.00.  It's still not perfect because it may not have gotten to 34.00 in the first place, however, you at least have 2 honest buyers willing to hit the 34.00 pricepoint so it seems fair to give the nod to the highest honest bidder.

Then again, you can't predict if Honesdood's bids would have been higher if the shills hadn't shown up and scared him off.

Shills are bad, bad people...  But at least this way an honest sell and honest buyer can come to an arrangement without relisting all the time.