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Post Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:03 am 
 

Interesting... Did any of the attendees here get this one? Certainly don't recall it being mentioned, although some of the other items were.

Gen Con Indy 2004 Auction Recap ( 404 - File or directory not found. )
.... #23 $ 275.00 Palace Vampire Queen, near mint but no outer folder .....

(c/w previous:
Gen Con Indy 2003 Auction Recap ( 404 - File or directory not found. )
.... #4 $500.00 Palace of the Vampire Queen, 1st Printing .....

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:08 pm 
 

I know this references something from a week ago, but why would anyone ever buy one of those five pound giants and consider using it in a game? I am not talking about buying it now years later as a collector's item...but back in the day when it first came out. A friend of mine had something similar and it probably weighed in the three-pound range. We refused to allow him to use it because we usually played on an unsteady, foldup, aluminum table. If the table tipped we may end up with a crushed foot from that three pound miniature falling on it.

Also, if you have a five-pound giant miniature can you really call it a miniature? Would "giant miniature" still be considered an oxymoron...seeing that it probably is not a miniature in the first place? And, is a giant miniature giant not only confusing but potentially redundant? See, these are the questions people need to be asking.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:18 pm 
 

I'm not thoroughly convinced that they were meant to be played with.  The picture on the auction seemed to show a very showy base, though I could be mistaken.



  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:05 pm 
 

Just arrived this morning.
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte ... RK:MEWN:IT

I figured it was an early print in good to fair condition.
Instead. It IS a first print. :D  
BUT, I only paid a total of $20.03 (Counting shipping....)  8O :D
Sure it is not mint, but still a nice surprise came in the mail today....


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:12 pm 
 

Aneoth wrote:Just arrived this morning.
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte ... RK:MEWN:IT

I figured it was an early print in good to fair condition.
Instead. It IS a first print. :D
BUT, I only paid a total of $20.03 (Counting shipping....) 8O :D
Sure it is not mint, but still a nice surprise came in the mail today....


Yeehaw! Congrats, Aneoth. Enjoy your great find!


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:19 pm 
 

Not amazing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5957450509

But I'm pretty chuffed with my M&T1 2nd, M&T2 2nd, M&T3 1st.  And all in very nice condition thanks to being stored and shipped in a (rare for the UK) 3-ring binder.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:14 pm 
 

johnhuck wrote:Not amazing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5957450509

But I'm pretty chuffed with my M&T1 2nd, M&T2 2nd, M&T3 1st. And all in very nice condition thanks to being stored and shipped in a (rare for the UK) 3-ring binder.


hey john i was gonna bid on that and then my boss called me into a meeting feckin 10 mins before it ended ..... grrr tsk ***insert curse***

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:31 pm 
 

johnhuck wrote:Not amazing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5957450509

But I'm pretty chuffed with my M&T1 2nd, M&T2 2nd, M&T3 1st. And all in very nice condition thanks to being stored and shipped in a (rare for the UK) 3-ring binder.


I didn't bid on that althoough I was watching iy, I actually was waiting to snipe it for the right price, but then because of the shipping cost to the USA, I stayed out as it would cost too much in total.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:20 pm 
 

Aneoth, the first printing of GDH was in '76. When he put that in the auction, I'm surprised no one else bid.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:24 pm 
 

Aneoth wrote:Just arrived this morning.
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte ... RK:MEWN:IT

I figured it was an early print in good to fair condition.
Instead. It IS a first print. :D
BUT, I only paid a total of $20.03 (Counting shipping....) 8O :D
Sure it is not mint, but still a nice surprise came in the mail today....


Can I play this game too... :D

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 5951296299


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:37 pm 
 

i believe  the pvq had the yellow top sheet. it was an amazing auction. frank mentzer did a great job of pulling in rarities for the 30th anniversary.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:59 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Aneoth, the first printing of GDH was in '76. When he put that in the auction, I'm surprised no one else bid.

Yes, me too, but I did not catch it until the last day myself. And I do not know any of the bidders before me.

1976? Right, but my third print (And the 6th and the 7th) lists the same copyright date of 1976. Often less knowledgeable sellers look at the date, put it in the auction and later, when it arrives, you may learn that the seller had no clue and you got a third print, thinking it would be a First....

Unless you ask the right questions, and actually get your answers, you never know for certain until it arrives in the mail.

I had bid on this one blind...and near the end (one day left). The Seller did not have time to return my question, but my first bid was never challenged, so it did not much matter.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:24 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Aneoth, the first printing of GDH was in '76. When he put that in the auction, I'm surprised no one else bid.

Condition didn't tempt me enough. Would still have expected about double that final price though.
Pretty good deal, Aneoth; and yes, asking questions can certainly pay dividends. :)

johnhuck wrote:Not amazing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5957450509
But I'm pretty chuffed with my M&T1 2nd, M&T2 2nd, M&T3 1st. And all in very nice condition thanks to being stored and shipped in a (rare for the UK) 3-ring binder.

Now that I like... :D  Missed those totally, John! :roll: Congrats...

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Managed to get to the postman this morning before he got impatient and was tempted to bend my "fun find" through my letterbox despite the "please don't try" stickers I've had to put on it, after two trashed packages in a row.

Just as well...

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(I need a digital camera... Total nightmare trying to scan and kept coming out with a greenish cast).

Condition is somewhat better than it appears on this untrimmed scan.
Tightly bound, no spine creases (just that tiny mark caused the upper staple); crisp, white pages; folded tables in perfect nick and zero staple rust (different staples from the ones used later by TSR, I think!). Pretty much unused, I suspect.
That tiny stain at the bottom right also shows on the first page, though. Slightly grubby esp. near the spine, with a bit of rubbing near the base of the front cover and a few small stains to the back cover. That's about it...

(Can't ignore the name on the front, but if anyone here tries telling me that reduces the condition to "Good" by default... :twisted:
Might follow John's observation and alter the surname to "Sniper" to see whether that increases the appeal value! 8O).


... Could launch into an attempt to re-write the rather misleading history section of Page Not Found at this point, but is probably not worth my bother.
Object not found! is more accurate, I suspect, although "Don't Give Up The Ship" was apparently not published until June 1972 according to Guidon's miniature rules editor; and a combination of that history, plus intro to Arneson in said booklet, plus his own retrospective comments elsewhere would yield a somewhat better chronology, IMHO.
The Arneson interview on GameSpy: Dave Arneson Interview - Page 1 also quotes 1971, not 1972; strange...
(Heh; "Braunsteins", Arneson and "naval combat" on The Acaeum page is enough to confuse anyone, however...). :)

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p.s. Anyone got the remotest idea as to the print run? (or for comparable publications?).
And was Chainmail actually the first item Guidon produced, or just the first booklet/booklet set?

  


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:27 am 
 

Howdy David,


harami2000 wrote:... Could launch into an attempt to re-write the rather misleading history section of Page Not Found at this point, but is probably not worth my bother.


Why not? I think that would be a great contirbution to the Acaeum. You are obviously a painstakingly detailed person, I'd think you'd add the collector's community immeasurably.

BTW all of those articles you list have errors in them, it is just a matter of who you want to pick on.

I think one important factor in all of these articles is that Gygax was the man to get it done. Whatever, the individual nuts and bolts of the creation process there can be no doubt whom was the most prolific, creative, motivated, charismatic, connected, reputable, and dedicated part of the creation process. Dave sent 18 pages of jumbled notes and Gary took some ideas from that but added to the already published Chainmail material and created the D&D game (110 pages). Dave Arneson didn't write one word of it.

Ask Tim Kask what the chances were of Dave creating a manuscript to be published as D&D. I'll tell you, nil!

There is a pattern with Arneson where he uses existing games, piecemeal, to create his campaign. He uses naval rule for hit points, troop experience from Napoleonics, and Chainmail for the employment of fantastic combat, levels, spells, magic items, etcetera.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:56 pm 
 

I let this one slip through the net

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5956744788

  


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:44 am 
 

johnhuck wrote:I let this one slip through the net
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 5956744788

*waves to Ian* ;)

(But then, did anyone double-check the printing?).

  


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:18 pm 
 

Another one to kick yet more stuffing out of the current grading/pricing methodology.

Totally unadvertised, laminated, detached spine, name inside, etc.; still three snipes at $40+ with a few more "hidden", I suspect...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5957651038

(Should be able to pick up a similar condition woodgrain set at not much more than that price according to the chart).

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:40 pm 
 

harami2000 wrote:Another one to kick yet more stuffing out of the current grading/pricing methodology.

Totally unadvertised, laminated, detached spine, name inside, etc.; still three snipes at $40+ with a few more "hidden", I suspect...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5957651038

(Should be able to pick up a similar condition woodgrain set at not much more than that price according to the chart).

I can't believe I missed that one. I've been looking for one of those for ages. :(


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:41 pm 
 

harami2000 wrote:Gen Con Indy 2004 Auction Recap ( 404 - File or directory not found. )
.... #23 $ 275.00 Palace Vampire Queen, near mint but no outer folder .....


#5 $ 710.00     Set of painted FRP minis (Aces Charity Auction speed-painting, proceeds to the Make-a-Wish Foundation)

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:47 am 
 

grodog's DunDraCon finds:

  • 1st print MM in EX+ condition
  • 8 sets of still-sealed 70's dice (the d4s and d8s are lethal weapons; no d10s in the sets)
  • The Fantasy Factory's Underground Encounters and Overland Encounters levels 1-4 (both), by Clint Bigglestone; both mint in original ziplocks, Overland also includes the extra ziplock for when you cut the cards apart
  • VG+ DungeonMaster's Index by Arneson
  • Gamer's Group Publications' DC1 The Ruins of Quinstead, EX- condition
  • Dark Tower, VG+ condition (my first time to own this, started reading it this weekend)
  • Spellbinders' Spells With A "Twist" by Paul Burdick and Chris McCrillus, EX- shape
  • FR4, The Magister in EX+ shape, signed by Steve Perrin (bought it from him directly); interestingly, this (like my other two copies) is a first printing, but the cover is not attached to the spine---the booklet is separate like a module maps cover would be, even though it's blank on the inside
  • TSR's Saga minigame (hopefully it's complete)
  • a complete set of all four (is that all there were?) mint, still-sealed TSR Instant Rub-Down Picture Transfers, plus three spare sheets

All tallied, I spent about $60 or so on it all.  

Tadashi got a nice steal on a bunch of still sealed miniature blisters on the boards from Archive, Minifigs (no GH though), as well....


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