macordani wrote:That is great about the coffee stains. I've seen may a module coke stains or something else. With me it was always Taco Bell.....mmmmmmm 10 pack of tacos.....those were the days...

*has a browse to see where those might fit on the Grading convention*
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*looks up to check*. Was that eating with the mod, or eating off it?

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Hmm... definitely a good pick up on that R1. Was that miswoven as "To the Aid of Flax" or similar, then?

I recently obtained a Tome of Magic that was bound backwards, and upside down.   Is this a relatively common error or a rarity?

RWilson wrote:No, that is just the way 2nd Ed is....

*snap!*

RWilson wrote:No, that is just the way 2nd Ed is....

deimos3428 wrote:

macordani wrote:Not much but I did just win a mono Tomb of Horrors in NM shape for $26. A little more than I wanted to spend but I've been trying to find a good copy for so long and many of them are beat up more than I would like. I also wasn't willing to pay $200+ for a shrinkwrapped one!

Tomb of Horrors is often in really terrible shape. I'm beginning to think this is the sign of a good module.

Incidentally, has anyone else noticed that the D3 Vault of the Drow mono is nearly always horribly coffee-stained? I think people tended to play this one in the middle of the night or something...

    Vault of the Drow was so large in scope that it was bound to get damaged during play.  It was possible for the players to loaf around the Vault, murdering evil people for profit, for long periods of time.  

    Shrine of the Koa Toans got an entirely different treatment.  It was possible for the player characters to just pay a toll and go right through the area...possible, but not likely.  My players picked a fight at the gate and I had all of the Koa Toans in the module description organized in units to wave attack them.  For instance, one high level fighter/magic-user went away from the party to summon a water elemental out of one of the huge pools.  He got swarmed down by 200 berzerk (and unarmed) Koa Toan pilgrims.    :P

bbarsh wrote:

 Vault of the Drow was so large in scope that it was bound to get damaged during play. It was possible for the players to loaf around the Vault, murdering evil people for profit, for long periods of time.  

Also, the DM was required to do tons of work to make D3 work. Afterall, there are only a relative small handful of actual encounters that are prepared in the module.

We played it back in 79 or 80 and at the time we alternated DMs throughout the series, starting with G1. Our group had 8 regular players and we thought it wouldn't be fair for one guy to get stuck paying for them all and not being able to play. So we each bought one module and went from there. We swore an oath not to read our module until we finished playing one prior. I got pegged for D3. I worked on that damn thing for hours and hours. I even took it on summer vacation and to add encounters.

    But it was a labor of love.  

    I thought that the basic idea behind D3 was brilliant.  I still like it.  However, I can never get my players to warm up to the idea of an evil city where good guys are outlaws.  I think they miss the feeling of having a safe have to run home to.  They never want to linger in the hog trough of adventure that is the Vault of the Drow.  

Mark

MShipley88 wrote:   I thought that the basic idea behind D3 was brilliant. I still like it. However, I can never get my players to warm up to the idea of an evil city where good guys are outlaws. I think they miss the feeling of having a safe have to run home to. They never want to linger in the hog trough of adventure that is the Vault of the Drow.  8)

Mark

i spent almost a week planning D3 when i first DM'd it - tho whole party almost perished there, it was a real tough slog. they got massacred in the pyramid room....those death lances played havoc on the fighter and the poor paladin (who lost 6 levels) - it does indeed take a lot of work to juggle it around enough to make it work tho. altho the party were totally decimated, they did manage to complete the module and rally enough (with reinforcements) to attempt the demonweb (but all perished there bar 1)

Al

Deadlord36 wrote:I think the general idea of the the GDQ series is anonymity and stealth. That is not to say that you can't kick giant ass occasionally. But unless the party is overly powerful, there are just too many threats to make it all the way thru by force. At least, there should be if properly DMed.

i agree. if you read the series correctly, it does kinda "hint" that the gist of the idea is to use stealth rather than brute force. if you DM the G series properly, the party hasnt a hope in hell. it kinda works the same as U3. giants might not be genius' but they aint totally stupid. and of course drow are a lot more intelligent than that, so there should be no way you can take them apart bit by bit.

my attitude to them is if you DM them right, the players should be penalised at every opportunity if their efforts are not of a quick stealthy nature.

Al

Marlith wrote:
I am having a case of buyers remorse. Was the price too high for what was included?

Between the B1-9 and the AC5 sheets those are worth about the $$ you paid so the rest is icing on the cake, IMHO of course.