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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:06 am

Well, Thanks for the nice standoffish post Aneoth, I appreciate it. :roll:

Granted, I did not place this in this thread originally, I simply followed up to the post. I do not think that these are the silliest auction prices of the year, but it is high. Once again the Acaeum gets quoted as verbatum. Let me remind you that according to the data listed on the site, those prices are as of 1999, just a little out of date for my tastes. Considering the fact that I have seen many of those go for less than $15.00 over the last 6 months is what I was basing my estimates on. Sorry, I prefer to base my estimates on my more recent data. BTW, those SR's were not mint.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:33 am

Just to follow up Aneoth, if that price was so great, How come I didn't see your name there bidding on them.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:05 am

Okay, here's one for ya:

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... T&rd=1

City State of the World Emperor going currently for $51. Which wouldn't raise my eyebrows usually... EXCEPT! It's missing the Map 6 book and the cover, and the condition of the two other books is definitely not mint (rips, lots of wear, pencil notations, etc.). $51 is too much for this item.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:48 am

When I made my post, the part that I thought was silly was that the same seller had listed two of the same item (and even used the same pic for them) and that there was what a difference of like 17 bucks between the two?

Niether issue I pointed out was mint, and it is possible he got a good price for them, it was more than a little odd that the one that ended first went for more than the later auction (but I admit this is not the first time I have seen this happen).

Anyway I thought the difference in the ending price was humorous, that's all.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:14 pm

bclarkie wrote:Just to follow up Aneoth, if that price was so great, How come I didn't see your name there bidding on them.

First, I did not intend to single you out, and it totally was unfair of me to appear to single you out. Sorry for that. :oops:

Second: I obviously did not read the posts with full understanding, so I appolgize there as well.

As for why I did not bid on those specific SR's. That is because I did not see the listings. Contrary to popular belief, I do not spend all of my spare time cruising the RPG listings on E-Bay.

Also, I have at least two copies of each issue of the SR except Issue 2 (I think it is Issue 2, that i have only one of).

BTW: I would gladly pay $25-$30 for a mint copy of that issue, and I would pay around that amount (More or less) for mint copies of any of the other issues as well. Just point me towards the listing(s) and I will be there to the bitter end.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:36 pm

Aneoth wrote:
bclarkie wrote:Just to follow up Aneoth, if that price was so great, How come I didn't see your name there bidding on them.

First, I did not intend to single you out, and it totally was unfair of me to appear to single you out. Sorry for that.

Second: I obviously did not read the posts with full understanding, so I appolgize there as well.

As for why I did not bid on those specific SR's. That is because I did not see the listings. Contrary to popular belief, I do not spend all of my spare time cruising the RPG listings on E-Bay.

Also, I have at least two copies of each issue of the SR except Issue 2 (I think it is Issue 2, that i have only one of).

BTW: I would gladly pay $25-$30 for a mint copy of that issue, and I would pay around that amount (More or less) for mint copies of any of the other issues as well. Just point me towards the listing(s) and I will be there to the bitter end.

Aneoth, fair enough and I appreciate the fact that you clarified your comments. I would like apologize as well for my rather abrupt response to your post. It did seem to me that you were singling me out in your post, and in turn I reacted harshly, which I should not have done.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:30 pm

Aneoth wrote:Contrary to popular belief, I do not spend all of my spare time cruising the RPG listings on E-Bay.

Hey Aneoth...
If you don't spend all your spare time cruising, how come I can't win against you. (A couple of times :wink:

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**Edit - Damn,screwed up the quote.**
**Edit - Damn,screwed up twice.**

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:26 am

Someone destroy this jack off:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 6&rd=1
and
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 4&rd=1

:twisted: :twisted:

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:36 am

Looks like Titan Games is getting a friend to shill their auctions. Either that or these two don't have a clue what they are bidding on.

Anyone see why this is goung so high? or do Titan Games just need to prop up they're feedback and sales?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte ... 6&rd=1

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:33 am

mbassoc2003 wrote:Looks like Titan Games is getting a friend to shill their auctions. Either that or these two don't have a clue what they are bidding on.

Anyone see why this is goung so high? or do Titan Games just need to prop up they're feedback and sales?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte ... 6&rd=1

I think its just a good ole fashion stupid a$$ bidding war. :roll:

The bidders seem to be legit and neither is anywhere near the seller. undercvrunicorn is from Florida and raskal999 is actually from France. It must be the misprinted cover thing, but seriously $200.00.

Also, look at its description its listed as EXTRA FINE :evil:

. Not only is it feckin hammered, but its also not even complete. WTF?! Talk about a complete and total misrepresentation of grading. God is that irritating. :evil:

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:50 am

jkason wrote:
Aneoth wrote:Contrary to popular belief, I do not spend all of my spare time cruising the RPG listings on E-Bay.

Hey Aneoth...
If you don't spend all your spare time cruising, how come I can't win against you. (A couple of times )
**Edit - Damn,screwed up the quote.**
**Edit - Damn,screwed up twice.**

Do you use sniping software? If not, then that is how you can most often beat me. That is how harami and some of the others who use it beat me, they often outbid me in the last moments of an auctions listing.

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:01 am

bclarkie wrote:
mbassoc2003 wrote:Looks like Titan Games is getting a friend to shill their auctions. Either that or these two don't have a clue what they are bidding on.

Anyone see why this is goung so high? or do Titan Games just need to prop up they're feedback and sales?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte ... 6&rd=1

I think its just a good ole fashion stupid a$$ bidding war. The bidders seem to be legit and neither is anywhere near the seller. undercvrunicorn is from Florida and raskal999 is actually from France. It must be the misprinted cover thing, but seriously $200.00. Also, look at its description its listed as EXTRA FINE . Not only is it feckin hammered, but its also not even complete. WTF?! Talk about a complete and total misrepresentation of grading. God is that irritating.

Where is the misprint on the cover? Anyone?

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:23 pm

Aneoth wrote:
jkason wrote:Hey Aneoth...
If you don't spend all your spare time cruising, how come I can't win against you. (A couple of times )
**Edit - Damn,screwed up the quote.**
**Edit - Damn,screwed up twice.**

Do you use sniping software? If not, then that is how you can most often beat me. That is how harami and some of the others who use it beat me, they often outbid me in the last moments of an auctions listing.

Nope. No sniping software. Wasn't aware that it existed. I did know, however, that there is search/seive software out there.

Anybody know where I can get this so-called "sniping sofware"?

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:38 pm

mbassoc2003 wrote:Where is the misprint on the cover? Anyone?

Unless I miss my guess, I believe the misprint has to do with the red text being shifted up and to the right of center, possibly due to the book shifting positions when the red was being printed.

Unless the misprint is the coffee stains. :D

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:47 am

Traveller wrote:
mbassoc2003 wrote:Where is the misprint on the cover? Anyone?

Unless I miss my guess, I believe the misprint has to do with the red text being shifted up and to the right of center, possibly due to the book shifting positions when the red was being printed.

Unless the misprint is the coffee stains.

Looks pretty much the same as mine. Me thinks Titan Ass Wop Shop is trying ti say 88 pages on a 64 page book is the misprint. If that's the case, every single copy is a misprint. There was never an 88 page edition.
FWIW, Tight Ass Games wouldn't tell me what the misprint was.

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:06 am

Traveller wrote:
mbassoc2003 wrote:Where is the misprint on the cover? Anyone?

Unless I miss my guess, I believe the misprint has to do with the red text being shifted up and to the right of center, possibly due to the book shifting positions when the red was being printed.

Unless the misprint is the coffee stains.

Agreeing with Traveller.

Checked mine, and the cover it's printed in two colours, red and brown. To make them overlap without them showing over the other, you have to "dig" a white area in the darker parts of the image to have the lighter colour stand out.

If you print them, and the printing plates nudge somewhat, as in this case - a thing that happens generally when you mount the plates, print the first copies, look at the results and manually tweak the plates to get everything going - you obtain a cover like this one.

Generally, you dig the first copies... but sometimes one slips through the quality control process.

But sincerely, 200 bucks is too much to get for a "misprint" like this.

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:20 am

rosenkav wrote:
Traveller wrote:Unless I miss my guess, I believe the misprint has to do with the red text being shifted up and to the right of center, possibly due to the book shifting positions when the red was being printed.

Unless the misprint is the coffee stains.

Agreeing with Traveller.

Checked mine, and the cover it's printed in two colours, red and brown. To make them overlap without them showing over the other, you have to "dig" a white area in the darker parts of the image to have the lighter colour stand out.

If you print them, and the printing plates nudge somewhat, as in this case - a thing that happens generally when you mount the plates, print the first copies, look at the results and manually tweak the plates to get everything going - you obtain a cover like this one.

Generally, you dig the first copies... but sometimes one slips through the quality control process.

But sincerely, 200 bucks is too much to get for a "misprint" like this.

It's not a first edition copy. It's a second edition copy and the second edition was published with surplus stock from the first edition reprinted covers after they added the $7.98 price tag. So both print runs of this cover were for 96 page books, and this one is the later 64 page reissue.
I don't see it as a missprint. I see it as a lousy photo and coffee damage, and I get TAG knows it.

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:39 am

mbassoc2003 wrote:Where is the misprint on the cover? Anyone?

*blinks at that final price*

IMHO, the only thing that goes to show is that some people (smart or otherwise) are willing to bid high on perceived rarity for misprints/variants, genuine or otherwise.
In that context, would make sense to research into the likes of the OD&D sets to determine whether there are consistent cover variants, etc., which could be clearly proven/shown. (Beats having people declare scarce variants in their auction listings without any reference).
Phps not down to the n'th degree with millimetre differences in module sizes, however, as noted on the current listings here.

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:58 am

mbassoc2003 wrote:It's not a first edition copy. It's a second edition copy and the second edition was published with surplus stock from the first edition reprinted covers after they added the $7.98 price tag. So both print runs of this cover were for 96 page books, and this one is the later 64 page reissue.
I don't see it as a missprint. I see it as a lousy photo and coffee damage, and I get TAG knows it.

Sorry. I'm talking tech in a language that is not my mothertongue. So, be patient with me! :)

I'll explain it better from a technical point of view - since I work with printing presses all year long.

When I said "first copies", I wasn't meaning in terms of collectionism, but just in time terms regarding the print run - so the first copies printed in THAT print run.

The first copies of EVERY print run like this - with two matching colours - are going to have this kind of problem (nudging and overlapping areas of colour with white showing in other areas), unless the printing press staff know how to do their work extremely well, minimizing this time and material loss while they adjust the plates to print as they should.

Mbassoc, you're right. In fact this is not a misprint, but rather a copy of the cover that should have been thrown away and not stapled and sold.
Complete with coffee stains, bad treatment and lousy photo to boot.

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:13 am

rosenkav wrote:
mbassoc2003 wrote:It's not a first edition copy. It's a second edition copy and the second edition was published with surplus stock from the first edition reprinted covers after they added the $7.98 price tag. So both print runs of this cover were for 96 page books, and this one is the later 64 page reissue.
I don't see it as a missprint. I see it as a lousy photo and coffee damage, and I get TAG knows it.

I'll explain it better from a techie point of view. When I said "first copies", I wasn't meaning in terms of collectionism, but just in time terms regarding the print run - so the first copies printed in THAT print run.

The first copies of EVERY print run are going to have this kind of problem (nudging and overlapping areas of colour with white showing in other areas), unless the printing press staff know how to do their work extremely well, minimizing this time and material loss while they adjust the plates to print as they should.

In fact this is not a misprint, but rather a copy of the cover that should have been thrown away. Complete with coffee stains, bad treatment and lousy photo to boot.

To stoke the fires further, the 64 page edition was always printed with a $7.98 price on the cover. This one does not have the price, and yet the remainder of the plate is present? Looks like a dodgy forgery that is trying to be covered up with a bad photo and coffee to me.

I wonder why Titan Games wouldn't specify what the misprint was, or answer any questions? Looks like Tony Ass Wop is up to his misselling tricks again.

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