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Post Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:24 pm 
 

Harami said:

Personally; bid what one feels an item to be worth, whatever the type of auction and bidding.

  The problem I feel with alot of the bidding these items is that there is no guidline to there value. And at the given time of auction you'ed better at least take a swing if you have any interest in whats on the block. Win or lose, pay to much or to little etc.  I'd would have paid 255.61 + for the AD&D Dungeon Masters Guide Promo Poster that I lost to Paul, now that I know that it's worth somewhere near that. The only thing that stoped me from going higher was inexperience. I not mad or disappointed, but will I see one again? who knows?
  Experience plays a major role here in this field of collecting. He knew the value as stated here on the forum, and he won the poster. I may be a long time gamer, but I can face the facts I'm just a newbie around the hardcore RPG collectors. What I do have is experience at auctions and e-bay or similar types are far from this. I think we all know this. At an auto auction for example you walk around the car, ask the owner or representative question face to face, and more importantly you see the players involved and there's always one more chance to bid a little higher if you really want it. Not a wild guess at a proxy bid.
 I may come across as a little rash in my collecting, but I'm a collector. And like yourselves I'm sure hindsight drives you crazy. And I hate being behind the curve especially in fields I love. Like in the days of the rec.games.frp.marketplace when all I was interested in was completing my Forgotten Realms run, and passed by countless gems that are now a small fortune around here. I have a funny feeling there my be a future hindsight with alot of this stuff once the D&D kids of the 80's (100x that of the 70's ) get a little older and wallets a little fatter.... J.M.O. look what the Baby Boomer's did to the classic car market and old comics once they hit there 40's.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:33 am 
 

darkseraphim wrote:<Lots of really smart stuff snipped>
What do you think the logical scarcity price is for Deities & Demigods with Cthulhu and Melnibone?  What do you think is the current price?

No kidding.  I tried to pick up one of these cheap over the last couple of months, because I'd never actually seen the contents.  I set my high bid at $26, which I figured was reasonable, since these things are not rare at all, despite the hype, and I didn't get one until this month (in relatively poor condition but I wanted the contents, not the spine).  I believe I paid $8-12.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:05 am 
 

invincibleoverlord wrote:OCE's, no box, with a BIN of $99.95  :? and starting bid of $64.95  :?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 04876&rd=1

Heh, the OCEs do still sell for non-trivial money, sometimes...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5928470611

(Well, at least the seller apologised for blanket-advertising as 1st edition, 1974. Seems to have been rewarded for that).

  

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:05 am 
 

darkseraphim wrote:What do you think the logical scarcity price is for Deities & Demigods with Cthulhu and Melnibone? What do you think is the current price?

Same for H1. What's the logical price? What's the current price?


deimos3428 wrote:No kidding. I tried to pick up one of these cheap over the last couple of months, because I'd never actually seen the contents. I set my high bid at $26, which I figured was reasonable, since these things are not rare at all, despite the hype, and I didn't get one until this month (in relatively poor condition but I wanted the contents, not the spine). I believe I paid $8-12.


The thing about the Cthulhu/Melnibonean mythos is: They are really freakin' cool.  Okay, from my viewpoint anyway, they will always have a special place.  You see, way back in the day when I was just a lad, two of my friends had a Deities and Demigods.  I remember looking through them and thinking how cool both those mythos were.  Cthulhu and Melnibonean were based on fictional stories by recent authors - they were different, the deities were different and the Gods were powerful!  Damn powerful!!!  And, when you are 11 years old, powerful stuff is that much cooler!!!!   Virtually every deity in the Cthulhu myths have 400 HP, are massive and have 25 strength.  Same can be said for the Melnibonean myths - check out the class levels and ability scores!  I think that Donblas the Justice Maker could beat the shit out of Zeus and then take on Odin!

So, when I go out to Kay-Bee toys and buy my own copy, I get home to discover that they are not included!  I went nuts. . . I actually wrote a letter to TSR requesting that they send me a copy of the missing myths (they never responded  :roll: ).

I wasn't till several years later when one of those friends stopped playing that I acquired his book for $20.00.  

There is a certain rarity, as those myths can only be found in two printings.  For instance, many casual collectors couldn't care less if their Players Handbook is a 4th, 5th, 6th,7th or 8th print (so there are many more to choose from).

(These mythos also inspired me to read various Lovecraft stories and the Elric saga - so again, there is an "emotional" connection.)

H1 has a similar appeal - it is the first module to take characters beyond 14th level.  (Power = cool).  It is also difficult to find a complete one and even harder to find a complete one with an high grade box.


When looking beyond rarity to determine demand keep these things in mind:

EVIL sells higher

OUTER PLANES sells higher

HIGH LEVEL sells higher

EROTICA sells higher

DEVILS/DEMONS sells higher

EPIC SCOPE sells higher

You will find many crossovers in those categories - Planescape has 'em all!!!    Just look at the various RPG's and what items are "hottest". Unless they are true collector's items (because of rarity), they usually have at least one of the above traits.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:31 am 
 

beyondthebreach wrote:When looking beyond rarity to determine demand keep these things in mind:

EVIL sells higher

OUTER PLANES sells higher

HIGH LEVEL sells higher

EROTICA sells higher

DEVILS/DEMONS sells higher

EPIC SCOPE sells higher

You will find many crossovers in those categories - Planescape has 'em all!!!    Just look at the various RPG's and what items are "hottest". Unless they are true collector's items (because of rarity), they usually have at least one of the above traits.


Very true and observed with a keen eye.

What does it tell you about RPG gamers? We're a bunch of power-hungry, evil and satanic sex-maniacs!!!  :twisted:


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:22 am 
 

Now this is just ridiculous - an OCE for $227.50!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5929706320

Well done bernie!

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:32 am 
 

Some guys are serious about there OCE's. This one is a beauty, but $150 would have been tops I'd think.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:36 am 
 

Yet another 0 feedback 1 day wonder bidder boosting up the price.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:41 am 
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 79499&rd=1

thats gotta be the record on a b2

  


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:29 pm 
 

Yeah, I agree.  I just pointed out that item to another collector myself.  Not even intact!  I wish I could get $14 (inc. shipping) for a partial B2.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:57 pm 
 

B2 might be making a comeback....

cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt ... 5931830562

  


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:33 pm 
 

mdr003 wrote:B2 might be making a comeback....



cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt ... 5931830562




Hey look, it's the christian ?shill? / newbie again...



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Post Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:47 pm 
 

He's been out bid! 8O

  


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:30 pm 
 

lol maybe its time I unload my 70ish B2's lol

  


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:56 pm 
 

Looks like a nice copy ... but, $30?  8O

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... egory=2545

I also find it, uh, "interesting" that the high bidder is the high bidder in five of this guy's auctions, all for overpriced ADD-1 hardbacks. Hard to believe, when with the smallest of efforts, he could be bidding on the same items for one-sixth the price.

I've stayed away from some of the recent shilling debates here, but this one's got me thinking. Then again, maybe he's just not doing any research at all.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:05 pm 
 

Although, as a quick follow-up, I will admit the condition looks pretty good on these books.

Still ... $30 opening bids? One buyer? I don't know ...  :?:

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:14 pm 
 

Check out this bit of insanity:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 15020&rd=1

  


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:48 am 
 

red_dawn wrote:Check out this bit of insanity:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 15020&rd=1

sheesh... $108 for a tatty 3rd print Gamma World.
That's not even funny :(

*flags as candidate for "silly price" award*. Good spot on that, <red_dawn>.

($10 for a nice 2nd print set was more like it...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5920797584 )

  
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