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Post Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:18 pm 
 

Hal wrote:


That is odd, BUT the seller is Monte Cook's wife and I think they posted it on their site so they may see a lot of new/"0" bids with that kind of press.


I was bidding on a silver anniv box set from Gal Havoc/"Monte and Sue Cook"

The price went higher than I thought reasonable, boosted by 0 feedback bidders, just like here.  Lo and behold, after the auction ended, the 0 bidders didn't pay and I received a Second Chance Offer at a so-so price.  I didn't like the smell of the whole thing and declined.   :?

  


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:15 pm 
 

Whoa... the implications there are kind of sucky.... Are you thinking that Monte/Gal shilled the auction?

That would be a huge scandal.  Maybe we need to ask PurpleDragon to investigate.


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:03 pm 
 

Put Inspector Dragon on the task.


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:20 pm 
 

The only silver set that I could find in their history is this one:

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 3183156621

It does not have any 0 bidders and it was won buy a person who has a  168 rating with no negatives (who had also won several other auctions from them). $79 is a bit high, but when you consider how much the market has been manipulated for this set, it is not surprising.

I went through about 50 of their 196 auctions and I only found four 0 bidders involved. Those bidders were mostly low end that had bid in only one or two auctions. In their higher end auctions (RPGA1,2; Adventurer Guild modules; typeset DM guide, etc) there was no evidence of shill bidding.

All of the auctions appear to be fair and on the up-and-up.

As to Mordrin's Silver Anniversary auction, it may have been a simple case of someone not involved with the seller and the second chance offer could have been legit. The auction posted at the top might just be the second attempt to sell it...or Mordrin may simply be mistaken as to the seller. Mordrin, is this the same auction or was it another one too early to show up in the history?

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:22 pm 
 

and just for completeness, here are the four 0 feedback bidders:

teera78
Member since: Mar-03-04
Location: United States
low bid on 3e players book

alpine_greymist
Member since: Apr-14-03
Location: Canada
only bid on the die (low bid)

jackyl101
Member since: Feb-01-04
Location: United States
only bid on white books

odhanan
Member since: Mar-28-04
Location: Canada
only bid on white books (won) and D&D blue rulebook (won).

  

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:58 pm 
 

Thanks for the detective work, PD.  My apologies for my poor memory - one of the bidders was still in single digits at the time of the auction, and that must be what I was thinking of.  :oops:

(fwiw, I was coming back to this thread today to caution against assuming anything about Gal either way, though).

  

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:08 pm 
 

We should chip in and pay him for detective work. Excellent job.


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:13 pm 
 

Not a problem, Mordrin, and I am more than happy to perform any investigations of questionable practices on ebay. I always go in with the assumption of innocence.

Personally, I will never understand why ebay allows for second chance offers. Such a situation can only open up the suggestions of shill bidding or questionable auctions. It is a system that only protects the seller and does nothing for the buyers. Even the seller who makes such an offer is opening himself up for questions...so it really is not that good for sellers either. Perhaps under closer inspection,  the "second chance" concept really is designed to benefit ebay, big surprise there.

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:59 am 
 

Er, did I miss something, or is this just an opened Silver Anniversary box with additional G2 for $130?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3186990489


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:35 pm 
 

Ralf Toth wrote:Er, did I miss something, or is this just an opened Silver Anniversary box with additional G2 for $130?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3186990489


I emailed the seller (before i realized he was overseas).  He told me he sliced open the shrink so he could check the contents but the wrap was still there, just not sealed.


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:44 pm 
 

I find that habit rather amusing. If it's open, it's open. What's the point in keeping the original shrinkwrap?

... and if I was looking for an original shrinkwrap, Jon Oakes is the man who can provide anything.


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:37 pm 
 

... and if I was looking for an original shrinkwrap, Jon Oakes is the man who can provide anything.


I always knew you were a man of discriminating tastes when it came to quality Shrinkwrap Ralf!  Thanks for your support! :D


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:56 pm 
 

Ralf Toth wrote:I find that habit rather amusing. If it's open, it's open. What's the point in keeping the original shrinkwrap?

... and if I was looking for an original shrinkwrap, Jon Oakes is the man who can provide anything.


Well there is the possibility that he obtained it from a reseller he didnt exactly know or trust.  paranoia did destroy ya (so say the kinks at least).


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:52 pm 
 

Unique item?!?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 3189019290

It's painful.  But have a look at his other auctions.

As if he didn't make enough money already.

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:28 am 
 

A bit overpriced...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 14291&rd=1

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:14 am 
 

"What is Dungeons and Dragons" paperback book on eBay final bid $16.20

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

Same book on half.com can be had in like new condition for $1.25

http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?c ... &meta_id=1

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:10 pm 
 

Can anyone tell me whats up with this item?  Its doesnt seem to be really all that special..crinkled cover and all...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 01558&rd=1

(there are still 6 days left too and look at what its up to)


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:47 pm 
 

It's rare.  Overpriced but rare.

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