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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:39 am 
 

Ok so is this worth $285  8O



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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:58 am 
 

improvstone wrote:Ok so is this worth $285 8O



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My thoughts exactly (points to interesting items thread).

  

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:04 pm 
 

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improvstone wrote:Ok so is this worth $285 8O



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My thoughts exactly (points to interesting items thread).




Sorry ... was posting here at the same time you were posting over there.  :roll:

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:07 pm 
 

Likewise.   :lol:

  


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:38 pm 
 

improvstone wrote:Ok so is this worth $285 8O



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Well 3 bidders thought it was worth $250+ 8O   And given the recent price surges on big ticket items, it doesn't really surprise me if it is as nice as the seller implied.



And the MM does have a certain pedigree as the first hardback manual.



Personally, I love the MM.  I could almost quote from it verbatim (much to the annoyance of the DM :D ) within a few months of getting my first copy.  The art is fantastic.  And it even smelled good (for all you book sniffers :? )  Not sure if I would want to pay that much.  But looking at other items on the rares list, there are plenty that are/were apparently worth more which I would rank lower in terms of personal desire to own.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:55 pm 
 

Ahhh, the oft overlooked vice/art of book-smelling... :lol:   Does that go hand-in-hand with dice-fondling?

  


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:04 pm 
 

johnhuck wrote:
improvstone wrote:Ok so is this worth $285 8O



cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... RK:MEWA:IT


Well 3 bidders thought it was worth $250+ 8O  And given the recent price surges on big ticket items, it doesn't really surprise me if it is as nice as the seller implied.



It surprises me, considering there was another one that ended a couple of days ago for much less, and yet a third up now that I've still got the high bid on at $9.99. ;)  Those 3 bidders seem to be very, very misinformed...

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:06 pm 
 

There certainly has been an increase in certain items recently, but without having my numbers right here in front of me, I am still pretty sure that just about doubles the highest receorded price that we have fpr a 1st print MM. I will have to check that when I get home and will post a follow up latter. IMHO, I think that that final is very high.


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:31 pm 
 

Has visible shelfwear at the foot and could easily have dented corners, too, judging by the seller's definition of mint (this copy is only "near mint") and the cropped scan.

seller wrote:I don't know how you would describe mint. However this book has never been used


Not sure whether that rules out a name written inside, too, but will give them the benefit of the doubt.



It's probably still a very nice copy. And I haven't seen (m)any of those on eBay for $10. ;)



johnhuck wrote:Personally, I love the MM. I could almost quote from it verbatim (much to the annoyance of the DM :D ) within a few months of getting my first copy. The art is fantastic. And it even smelled good (for all you book sniffers :? ) Not sure if I would want to pay that much. But looking at other items on the rares list, there are plenty that are/were apparently worth more which I would rank lower in terms of personal desire to own.


*nod nods*



Choice between a minty "10th Anniversary Combo Pack" and a minty 1st MM = no competition.



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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:38 pm 
 

It is my opinion that the rare and first print 1st ed. stuff will continue to receive higher and higher prices. In any collectors medium it is routine to have some stuff priced out of the reach of regular collectors.  As the collectors of this stuff get older and get better salaries, the prices will rise.  Look to the high prices of older comic books and sports cards.  Game collecting is getting big and will get bigger.



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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:06 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:Frank (extsr) would probably agree with me. :)




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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:38 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:It is my opinion that the rare and first print 1st ed. stuff will continue to receive higher and higher prices. In any collectors medium it is routine to have some stuff priced out of the reach of regular collectors. As the collectors of this stuff get older and get better salaries, the prices will rise. Look to the high prices of older comic books and sports cards. Game collecting is getting big and will get bigger.



Frank (extsr) would probably agree with me. :)




Truthfully I have no idea where the RPG market is going to head, and at this point I dont think anyone can be sure, but I can tell you that even though Comic Books seems to have done okay with the advent of Ebay, the Baseball Card market was destroyed by it.  Granted the baseball card companies didnt do collectors any favors by completely flooding the market back in the late 80's early 90's, but Ebay really put the finishing touches to it.  With the exception of some very old BB cards, and the very special collectors cards created  today with print runs less than 500, the entire BB card market was exposed by the advent of EBay to the point that cards that used to sell for well over $1000.00, typically now go for just a couple hunderd dollars i.e Nolan Ryan rookie card that I posted about several monts ago, sold for $1,600.00-$2,000.00 back in the mid 90's is now lucky if it reaches $400-$450. Just my $.02.


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:56 pm 
 

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Blackmoor wrote:It is my opinion that the rare and first print 1st ed. stuff will continue to receive higher and higher prices. In any collectors medium it is routine to have some stuff priced out of the reach of regular collectors. As the collectors of this stuff get older and get better salaries, the prices will rise. Look to the high prices of older comic books and sports cards. Game collecting is getting big and will get bigger.



Frank (extsr) would probably agree with me. :)




Truthfully I have no idea where the RPG market is going to head, and at this point I dont think anyone can be sure, but I can tell you that even though Comic Books seems to have done okay with the advent of Ebay, the Baseball Card market was destroyed by it. Granted the baseball card companies didnt do collectors any favors by completely flooding the market back in the late 80's early 90's, but Ebay really put the finishing touches to it. With the exception of some very old BB cards, and the very special collectors cards created today with print runs less than 500, the entire BB card market was exposed by the advent of EBay to the point that cards that used to sell for well over $1000.00, typically now go for just a couple hunderd dollars i.e Nolan Ryan rookie card that I posted about several monts ago, sold for $1,600.00-$2,000.00 back in the mid 90's is now lucky if it reaches $400-$450. Just my $.02.


I had a Brett Hull rookie Card...sold it for 12 bucks, more than 20 times what I paid for it -- and I got to chew the plasticky pink gum, too! :)  No regrets there at all.



I stopped bothering with cards when they stopped making the thick cardboard ones...the same "glossy phenomenon" is taking over RPGs, too, and I don't think it's a good thing.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:31 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:...the same "glossy phenomenon" is taking over RPGs, too, and I don't think it's a good thing.




Agreed  8)  There is something about the feel of non plastic / non gloss paper and stitched binding.  I would love to see manual produced the old way  :wink:

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:33 pm 
 

Feels nicer, but falls apart way more easily. I prefer non-glossy paper, but the crappily-bound covers are welcome to stay in the past, imo ;)

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:47 pm 
 

GraysonAC wrote:Feels nicer, but falls apart way more easily. I prefer non-glossy paper, but the crappily-bound covers are welcome to stay in the past, imo ;)


Well, if you're referring to the 1st Ed. Unearthed Arcana era books, then yes, they fell apart quite frequently.  The very early DMG, MM, and PHB were stitched, not glued -- and they hold up just fine over the ages under anything resembling normal wear.   (If you can break one of them, you should be thrown in jail for collectible abuse!)

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:36 pm 
 

Hrm, maybe I've just had cruddy luck with them then. Most of the 1st ed hardbacks that I've owned had their spines cracking away whenever I flipped through them. Didn't lose any pages that I can recall, but the spine/binding was definately loose :(



The 2nd Ed hardbacks (early ones, I don't know about the black-cover ones) were terrible for spine cracking and pages falling out :(

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:45 pm 
 

A few years back I took one of my Unearthed Arcana's which had fallen apart and zipped off a comb-bound copy.  Works great!  I kept the original just in case I have to make another.



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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:47 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:There certainly has been an increase in certain items recently, but without having my numbers right here in front of me, I am still pretty sure that just about doubles the highest receorded price that we have fpr a 1st print MM. I will have to check that when I get home and will post a follow up latter. IMHO, I think that that final is very high.




As promised, here is my follow up. The previous highest recorded price that I have is $148.00 for a Near MInt one back in 2004. The second highest price that a 1st printing went for, was back in 2001 and that went for $143.00 and was also Near Mint. The 3rd highest listing for a 1st printing was $128.00 also back in 2001 in Very Fine condition, and no other 1st print MM has even come close to breaking $100.00. Not including the 3 most recent ones, the last one to go up for sale on EBay was Aneoth's that sold for $36.65 back in the spring that Creepontheborderlands won(and tried to sell 3 seperate times unsuccessfully afterward for more than that :roll: ). Granted Aneoth's was not in great condition by far, but seriously, that is almost a $250.00 difference. 8O This auction was a complete abberation due to a few bidders that absolutely had to have it. It seems tauglorimorgorus specifically is newer to the collecting scene and either has very deep pockets or one hell of a Credit Card bill on the way, because he is bidding exhorbitantly high on everything. :roll:



Aside: The bidder who actually won this auction won an auction a few months ago that also raised some eyebrows:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5186939431



I am sure most of you remember this auction, because it had the seemingly hidden(or so me and deimos thought :oops: ) 1st print DMG in Near Mint condition.  It also had a real nice condition 2nd print PHB.


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:59 pm 
 

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GraysonAC wrote:Feels nicer, but falls apart way more easily. I prefer non-glossy paper, but the crappily-bound covers are welcome to stay in the past, imo ;)


Well, if you're referring to the 1st Ed. Unearthed Arcana era books, then yes, they fell apart quite frequently. The very early DMG, MM, and PHB were stitched, not glued -- and they hold up just fine over the ages under anything resembling normal wear.  (If you can break one of them, you should be thrown in jail for collectible abuse!)




You know I absolutely love the UA and it is definitely one of my favorite books of all time(hey what can I say, I loved the Cavalier class and all the new spells :wink: ). Sadly, the one I bought when I was 12 fell apart partially after a few months of use. :cry:   Kind of traumatic on a 12 year old kid who spent $12.00 hard earned allowance dollars on a new book that fell apart. :x


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