Howdy Allan,

grodog wrote:From the description at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=44112
it sounds like each of the individual versions of the Dungeon Geomorphs offered new encounter ideas/etc.  

Perhaps silly of me, but I had always thought that all of the info from the first three individual sets had been compiled into the info on the collected set.  Anyone care to chime in with more details?  

Thanks

Oh, Allan... Here I thought you were a Greyhawk guru In fact, no one has taken notice of these in the ubiquitous lists of Greyhawk products. I thought I might be the only person to even look at them in my collection.

The sets, all of them, had sample dungeon sections - classic Gygax ones: secret temples, lost demon gods, weird magic items, never again reproduced monsters, NPC's, etc. The walled city one has a listing of city occupations, a hand drawing of the City of Greyhawk (methinks by Gary himself), and a sample section of the City of Greyhawk (the Silvery Mart, Old Gate, Anchor Tavern, Society of Sages, Old Town Barracks, etc.), including adventure hooks to the Nyr Dyv. IMO one of the great unnoticed treasures of Greyhawk knowledge. I would not be surprised if the Dungeon Geomorph sample entries came from Castle Greyhawk!

Don't get too friendly with Kyleen... Radvar is very jealous! And beware the demon's amulet!

Gygax always manages to cram even the most inocuous item with reams of goodies. With three of Gary's paragraphs a DM could run a season's worth of campaigns.


Futures Bright,

Paul

stormber wrote:

grodog wrote:From the description at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=44112
it sounds like each of the individual versions of the Dungeon Geomorphs offered new encounter ideas/etc.  

Perhaps silly of me, but I had always thought that all of the info from the first three individual sets had been compiled into the info on the collected set.  Anyone care to chime in with more details?  

Thanks

Oh, Allan... Here I thought you were a Greyhawk guru In fact, no one has taken notice of these in the ubiquitous lists of Greyhawk products. I thought I might be the only person to even look at them in my collection.

Alas, none of the original editions of the geomorphs are not among my collection.  To hear now, after the fact, that the Walled City geomorphs contain long-lost Greyhawk lore makes me cringe when I decided not to bid on the $99 set recently sold on eBay  (Of course, that's also kept my wife happier, too ).  

The sets, all of them, had sample dungeon sections - classic Gygax ones: secret temples, lost demon gods, weird magic items, never again reproduced monsters, NPC's, etc. The walled city one has a listing of city occupations, a hand drawing of the City of Greyhawk (methinks by Gary himself), and a sample section of the City of Greyhawk (the Silvery Mart, Old Gate, Anchor Tavern, Society of Sages, Old Town Barracks, etc.), including adventure hooks to the Nyr Dyv. IMO one of the great unnoticed treasures of Greyhawk knowledge. I would not be surprised if the Dungeon Geomorph sample entries came from Castle Greyhawk!

Wowza.  Sounds like these will be added to my short list of OOP products to find!  Thanks for the summaries Paul!

Allan, I haven't noticed any interior differences between printings of Sets 1, 2, and 3, or the Outdoor/Walled City.  But the later Set 1-3 reprint was specifically focused on the Moldvay edition of Basic D&D; it took out all of Gygax's original flavor and just left you with the maps.  The originals are where it's at.  But there is a cost-vs-content issue in collecting the originals, since you only get a few hooks per item.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Stormber.

Well. Whadda ya know. I posted a photo of a bunch of cards a couple of weeks ago, and someone said they were geomorphs. Now I go and look in the envelope they came in and theres this two page orange on white leaflet on presumably the City of Greyhawk from back in the late 70's. What a gem.

*bump*

Geomorphs question...compare:

Dungeons and Dragons TSR | eBay

1977 Dungeon Dragons Basic Set Extras | eBay

Both auctions are for the Geomorphs Set 1. However, bbarsh's auction has a sheet with blue text, and the other auction has a sheet with red text. Also, the graphics look slightly different. Are these the front and back of the same sheet? Or is the blue text sheet the back of one of the geomorphs? Or is there another explanation?

zhowar1 wrote:*bump*

Geomorphs question...compare:

Dungeons and Dragons TSR | eBay

Dungeons and Dragons Basic Set | eBay

Both auctions are for the Geomorphs Set 1. However, bbarsh's auction has a sheet with blue text, and the other auction has a sheet with red text. Also, the graphics look slightly different. Are these the front and back of the same sheet? Or is the blue text sheet the back of one of the geomorphs? Or is there another explanation?

I'll pull out my earlier prints and compare them to the one I just sold. Give me a day or two, though. I got pack up 50 items from that auction group.

bbarsh wrote: I'll pull out my earlier prints and compare them to the one I just sold. Give me a day or two, though. I got pack up 50 items from that auction group.

Thanks, no rush.  :)

From what I've seen before, I thought that the red sheet in the basic set auction was the standard. It was actually the one in bbarsh's auction, with a blue sheet with different graphics, that looked "different" to me.

Could it be a printing difference?
According to:
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the early basic sets had the 1st or 2nd print Lizard Logo Set 1, whereas bbarsh's auction is for a 3rd print Wizard logo Set 1

The basic set in question has code 1001, so should contain 2nd print Geomorph set according to Acaeum Index

chromaticknight wrote: The blue writting sheet in bbarsh auction is the front of the red sheet in the second auction. If that makes sense.

Yes, that makes sense. That was one possibility I considered in my first post. Thank you for the clearing that up!  :)