Avurax wrote:I posted this invitation in the Random Thoughts thread last week but this might be the more appropriate venue (though I am not ruling out posting a follow up in the Random Thoughts area later in the week   ).

Yahoo's Survival Football

All you have to do is pick 1 winning team each week.  The challenge is that you can only pick a team once.  So picking the Patriots in week 1 takes the Patriots off your board the rest of the season.  For anyone who is interested:

http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/survival
Group ID: 9661
Password: collect

The NFL regular season kicks off one week from tomorrow for those in North America (Thursday September 4th).

yup I signed up right after you memoed us in the league.

Hi all,

I'm ready to go.... Please PM me someone with the league login so I can get ready for the draft.

The Shrinkwraps will not be out done this year.

Wow... AP not in the top 25 for Luddite scoring last year.

Who to keep? I have Moss, Chad, Westbrook and AP. I can only keep one you say? Bugger.

As well as QBs and WRs.... make sure you have a decent long range kicker. Lots of points available there too.

I don't mind drafting in 10th.... sometimes having the 10th/11th picks is better than having 1st and 21st.

Regards

Mike

lucyjoyce wrote:The Ladies of Pain's first matchup is against your Grimjacks, JG.  Bring it on.

The Grimjacks have been renamed!  My team's new name is . . .

Cones of Light!

ref: http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewt ... 42&t=29510

PaulKM wrote:Bugger.  I've been researching things the wrong way round.  I must have misread something, damn internet drafts.  Now I have to rethink my whole strategy!?   Autodraft, yeah that's it....

Ouch: seven top players already gone!  I don't wanna go first.

The Cones of Light are going to blind me, tie me up, and take my pocket change.

There will be some VERY good RBs available with the 1st three picks...basically, the top three rated RBs it looks like......

Mike B.

mdr003 wrote:Wow... AP not in the top 25 for Luddite scoring last year.

Who to keep? I have Moss, Chad, Westbrook and AP. I can only keep one you say? Bugger.

As well as QBs and WRs.... make sure you have a decent long range kicker. Lots of points available there too.

I don't mind drafting in 10th.... sometimes having the 10th/11th picks is better than having 1st and 21st.

Regards

Mike

Especially when you already have Moss, or Westbrook...........
Can you say Fantasy domination from the start?
Its like getting THREE first rounds picks.

The new guys are bascially toast.
What players do they get to keep from last season?
If none, then they are getting one first round pick and ALL the old team managers will have TWO first round picks.
Think on it please.

A keeper league is fine, but not the way this seems to be heading.

Badmike wrote:
It's not any different from having the 7th pick in the draft....and having LT, AP, Marion Barber, and Westbrook still available at that pick...which they will be from what I'm seeing.  

Basically a "keeper" league is just to promote continuity and reward continued participation.  BTW most keeper leagues (my money league included) allow multiple keeper picks at various positions...!

Even with that, two years ago my money league had a brand spanking new team come in, with no holdovers, and 27 players off the table (each returning team gets three keepers, no more than one from each position), and proceeding to beat the living tar out of the old pros and win the league.  If you're good, you're good, and you don't need excuses....

Mike B.

First. I know what a keeper league is, but thanks for the explanation.
I have been playing FFB for a while too.

Second, in that money league, did that guy have to start out with three less players than all the other teams had before the draft began, or was he allowed to draft three straigth players first?
If he was not allowed to obtain some players before the regular draft began, then that guy is either exceedingly lucky, or the best manager of FFB I have ever heard of.

Third, I disagree, it is different.

Actual draft Picks 1-3 pick will pick a top 8-10 player, as the top 7 are already gone from the board. (potentially)
Perhaps LT and AP and a couple of other players will be left.
So, yes they will no doubt get a top 10 NFL pick there.
But that is not my main point at all.

Pick no. 4 will Then have TWO straight picks in the first round (His keeper, then his first round pick), no. 5 the same, no. 6 the same, no. 7th the same etc. until.
The last pick (Winner of last years championship) will in effect have THREE Straight picks at his first opportunity to draft, not two.
Obviously his keeper, then whomever he picks at 10th and 11th.

He will (potentially) end up with 3 of the top 18 players in the NFL on his team.  
The next team will have 3 of the top 19, and the next team will have 3 of the top 20, and so on until you get back to the new guys.
Who once they have picked players for the second round, will have just 2 of the top 27 players in the NFL.

Please don't tell me you cannot see the lopsidedness of that.
That IMO is absolute domination in any sort of FFB draft.

At that point (top of the third round) the top tier players at WR, QB, and RB will be gone.
The next level of players is far below the first tier at each position.
Anyone who has played FFB for 14 years like you must know this.

Who would not love to have a first round pick AND a top 7 keeper too at the end of round one, while 3 of the 10 teams in your league will only have one top 10 player?
I would do that all day any day.
It is EXACTLY like having TWO first round picks for all the old teams.
And the new guys just get ONE first round pick.

All three of the new teams will be one player behind us all the way through the draft.
At the last round they will have to take two picks each to round out a complete roster.
Or have an extra three team one round extended draft after the old teams finish the draft.

Am I the only one that can see all this?
Can no one else see the lopsided unfairness of it all?

As for the advanced notice about making it a Keeper League.

I also think I'm going to enable a "Keeper" function allowing everyone to keep one member from their team from last season....

And not another word was heard about that thought again until last night.....
two days before the draft we get the new rule..........
No discussion, just the new rule.
Your league, your rules.
I have no problem with that, but....
Still does not help the new guys, who get to keep nothing.

I want fair compitition leagues to play in, not domination leagues where 3 of the 10 teams are at a great disadvantage from the beginning.
Even in a free league it seems to me anyone would want that.

OK. I totaly read it all wrong then.

my apologies.

In that case, do We HAVE to keep anyone at all?

NONE of my players would likely be a top ten choice (much less top 6) in any sort of draft.
Not Even Anderson.
Have you seen his SOS this year?
OMG but its brutal..........
He will be lucky to be the starter by week 7.
Thats if he can still walk.

I would MUCH rather pick from the available players left at No. 6.

If I had Brady AND LT then yeah... no brainer there.
Same thing for Moss AND Westbrook.

If I had even one of them it would be a no brainer... but I didnt.
You know what I had... they were all (at best) average players who outperformed their ADP ratings.

Heck only one of my RBs was even a starter at the draft last year.... .
Edgerrin James....... he was THE stud RB for my team........  
And he could easily fall over from old age any minute.

I will need to know before your midnight deadline of course, if I must pick one of those asshats I had last season to be my keeper.
Once again, I would MUCH rather pick from the first round draft choices remaining along with the new guys.

.... It's tough to pull the trigger on them this year, though, as age will eventually take it's toll and no one wants to be holding the bag when they crumple.

You mean sorta Like Larry Johnson did for me last year?
4th pick overall, (or something close to it) and he sucked horribly.

Edgerrin James though...  Yeah, he did pretty well.
(Dont recall when I was blessed with him in the autodrdaft though).
He was one of the VERY few players that I kept the entire way from the autodraft picks.
At the end, James and IIRC just one or two WR's were all that remained of that awesome autodraft team.  

AUTODRAFTS RULE!!!!!!!!
...........not..........