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Post Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:29 pm 
 

Excellent blog: why haven't I seen a link to that before?
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:27 pm 
 

faro wrote:Excellent blog: why haven't I seen a link to that before?
Thanks, gro'. :)


De nada:  I hadn't been aware of it until corresponding with James in the past few days, figured folks here and elsewhere might be interested! :D

BC-relatedly, for folks who've been keeping score at home, PPP and its artists have squared their accounts, too:

Jason Braun over on K&K wrote:Howdy folks!

Allan gave me a little bump-bump to come pipe in here. I'm happy to report that Rob and I have worked everything out like adults. The art is paid in full as of about 2 weeks ago  and I even received my comp copies last week. I'm in frequent contact with Jim Holloway, so I know he's been paid on some old outstanding debts as well.

I do appreciate the support, gang.


Link:  http://www.knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb/v ... 1&start=15

The PPP site is currently down for some additional development work that should be completing soon; I'll be talking to Eric Shook to get specifics on when it'll be available again later tonight (hopefully).


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:42 pm 
 

What a great turnaround of events!!!

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:41 pm 
 

kevin mayle wrote:What a great turnaround of events!!!


Echoed.  I would have bet anything the debacle at PPP was insurmountable; kudos to Grodog, Eric Shook, and others who seem to have helped pull this mess out of the abyss.  Especially good to hear of the settling up with Jim and Jason; that was one of the biggest reasons I couldn't see myself purchasing anything from PPP ever again. It truly seems the slate is about wiped clean; I'm eager to see what offerings PPP has for the future!

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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:55 am 
 

Busman wrote:I think you're confusing marine layer with Smog. Smog doesn't really occur on near the beaches. It's very bad 80 miles in, no doubt, but not 2 miles. I know, I live right around 2 miles from the beach everyday.

Oh, and Mike, you'll be happy to know that averages house prices in LA have been dropping, it's only 550k for the average house now! w00t!


Speaking of LA, it was just ranked as the MOST polluted City in the USA.
Three of the top five are in California and of those two are along the Coast.

BTW: It aint marine layer......... or fog.

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A marine layer is an air mass which develops over the surface of a large body of water such as the ocean or large lake in the presence of a temperature inversion. The inversion itself is usually initiated by the cooling effect of the water on the surface layer of an otherwise warm air mass. As it cools, the surface air becomes more dense than the warmer air above it, and thus is trapped below it. The layer may thicken through turbulence generated within the developing marine layer itself. It may also thicken if the warmer air above it is lifted by an approaching area of low pressure. The layer will also gradually increase its humidity by evaporation of the ocean surface, as well as by the effect of cooling itself. Fog will form within a marine layer where the humidity is high enough and cooling sufficient to produce condensation. Stratus and stratocumulus will also form at the top of a marine layer in the presence of the same conditions there.

In the case of coastal California, the offshore marine layer is typically propelled inland by a pressure gradient which develops as a result of intense heating inland, blanketing coastal communities in cooler air which, if saturated, also contains fog. The fog can last until midday when the heat of the sun is frequently strong enough to evaporate it. An approaching frontal system or trough can also drive the marine layer onshore.

A marine layer will disperse and break up in the presence of instability such as may be caused by the passage of frontal system or trough, or any upper air turbulence which reaches the surface. A marine layer can also be driven away by sufficiently strong winds.



It is SMOG!

I lived in San Diego 30 years ago (for four years) and it was famous even then for its unbelievable level of smog. We would sometimes camp out in the low hills east of the city in a state park. From there at ANY time of the day you will see the HUGE nasty looking HEAVY Cloud of smog cloaking the entire city in its deadly embrace.  NO matter what season, before a rain, after a rain, DURING the rain (Not that it rained that much). Windy or still no matter. The smog is always there.

It aint marine layer......... or fog.


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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:07 am 
 

Speaking of LA, it was just ranked as the MOST polluted City in the USA.
Three of the top five are in California and of those two are along the Coast.


Maybe, but look at who just came in as the "sootiest" city in the coutry.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353559,00.html

Pittsburgh...go figure.  Maybe that is why we havent heard from bclarkie in awhile.  He has probably been attending all of the "Clean up the Pitt" rallies at city hall and just hasnt had time to post.  :wink:

Sootiest.....never even assumed that was an actual word.  :?


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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:13 am 
 

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It is SMOG!

I lived in San Diego 30 years ago (for four years) and it was famous even then for its unbelievable level of smog. We would sometimes camp out in the low hills east of the city in a state park. From there at ANY time of the day you will see the HUGE nasty looking HEAVY Cloud of smog cloaking the entire city in its deadly embrace.  NO matter what season, before a rain, after a rain, DUring the rain, whatever. The smog is always there.

It aint marine layer......... or fog.


back in the '50s / '60s, Liverpool (UK), used to have pretty bad smog. my dad used to be coming back home from work and 50 yards from their house, he couldnt see it!

sometimes when he was on a night out on the town, on the way home, you couldnt even see 2 feet in front of your face, it was that bad. they used to make their way home on instinct (and actually get there too!).

its nothing like that now. rare you ever get anything like that, so things/times change.

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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:17 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
back in the '50s / '60s, Liverpool (UK), used to have pretty bad smog. my dad used to be coming back home from work and 50 yards from their house, he couldnt see it!

sometimes when he was on a night out on the town, on the way home, you couldnt even see 2 feet in front of your face, it was that bad. they used to make their way home on instinct (and actually get there too!).

its nothing like that now. rare you ever get anything like that, so things/times change.

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Well, I will admit that FOG due to marine layer, or perhaps aided by it was prevailant (And still is I am sure) along the entire coast of California.

But the stuff that is clinging to the Cities is NOT fog....... it is SMOG, which is basically man made POLLUTION.


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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:26 am 
 

I cannot fathom how anyone can live like that, or even allow it to happen. Boggles the mind.
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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:22 am 
 

For the artists who post in this thread, just a quick tip that Keith Herber (who wrote many of the best Call of Cthulhu works for Chaosium) is working out a deal to publish some Call of Cthulhu material and will be looking for contributors.

Following thread:
http://www.yog-sothoth.com/modules.php? ... 46&start=0

He mentions:
If I managed to put together a company to publish books (I've done this before, it ain't no big deal) and called it "Golden Age Publications" or something, are there enough CoC authors and artists out there to support the venture?


I do not know what he is looking at paying but the latest posts in the thread above looks like this is pretty much a done deal.


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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:10 am 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:For the artists who post in this thread, just a quick tip that Keith Herber (who wrote many of the best Call of Cthulhu works for Chaosium) is working out a deal to publish some Call of Cthulhu material and will be looking for contributors.

Following thread:
http://www.yog-sothoth.com/modules.php? ... 46&start=0

He mentions:


I do not know what he is looking at paying but the latest posts in the thread above looks like this is pretty much a done deal.


I'm very excited about this.  I'll definitely buy anything written by Herber, especially if it has a "classic" flavor. Getting tired of a lot of recent Coc stuff, which all seems to be one shots based in bizarre time periods (1967, 1850, or 900 A. D. instead of the 1920-30s), total party kills with no purpose except to show how "evil" the Keeper is, pure gore/slasher horror with no Cthuloid elements, or tournament modules that either end with a time loop or an elder god destroying everyone with no possible escape.....

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Post Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:29 pm 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:For the artists who post in this thread...

Thanks for the link. I think I'd like to contribute.

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Post Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:44 am 
 

Aneoth wrote:I lived in San Diego 30 years ago (for four years) and it was famous even then for its unbelievable level of smog. We would sometimes camp out in the low hills east of the city in a state park. From there at ANY time of the day you will see the HUGE nasty looking HEAVY Cloud of smog cloaking the entire city in its deadly embrace.  NO matter what season, before a rain, after a rain, DURING the rain (Not that it rained that much). Windy or still no matter. The smog is always there.

It aint marine layer......... or fog.


I've lived in Southern California continuously for the last 35 years from San Diego to Santa Barbara. I know what Los Angeles was like 30 years ago, your lungs burned from the air when you played outside. I've lived inland, I've lived on the coast. I have friends who live inland now, I live effectively on the coast now. How it was 3 decades ago when you lived 120 miles from Los Angeles and how it is now is not even night and day, even when you compare out in Riverside and the rest of the Inland Empire.

That said, where I live now, 2 miles from the coast, near Santa Monica, it's not SMOG. Only when there are Santa Ana winds (the winds that blow from the high deserts off of the Santa Ana mountains) do we get the SMOG out here on the coast. I know, I can tell you which days it's happening, my lungs can tell you which days it's happening. The rest of the time, it's not SMOG. In fact, it's clear more days than not. But, you're right, you probably know better than I do.

  

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Post Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:54 am 
 

Busman wrote:
I've lived in Southern California continuously for the last 35 years from San Diego to Santa Barbara. I know what Los Angeles was like 30 years ago, your lungs burned from the air when you played outside. I've lived inland, I've lived on the coast. I have friends who live inland now, I live effectively on the coast now. How it was 3 decades ago when you lived 120 miles from Los Angeles and how it is now is not even night and day, even when you compare out in Riverside and the rest of the Inland Empire.

That said, where I live now, 2 miles from the coast, near Santa Monica, it's not SMOG. Only when there are Santa Ana winds (the winds that blow from the high deserts off of the Santa Ana mountains) do we get the SMOG out here on the coast. I know, I can tell you which days it's happening, my lungs can tell you which days it's happening. The rest of the time, it's not SMOG. In fact, it's clear more days than not. But, you're right, you probably know better than I do.


I am happy for you and Santa Monica (West of LA aint it?), but I was refering to my experience in SAN DIEGO, as you stated about 120 miles from LA and Santa Monica...........

Nowhere in my post did I ever mention Santa Monica. I am sticking by my post.
Wasnt it formerly a quiet little suburb of LA?
I mean before it became the tourist meka it is now?
Since you've lived there 35 years, you know that Santa Monica has little or no pollution from any industries, otherwise it too would be clouded with SMOG.
From what I understand, it is all but completely a Tourist/Beach City, and as such it would NEVER allow any industries to pollute its biggest money maker.

While I was there (yes 30 years ago) in San Diego there was an orangish colored haze on and over it almost all the time.
(Not easy to see inside the city, but in the hills looking out towards the coast it was all too obvious).
Fog is White or perhaps greyish not Orange, or black..........
I lived there for 4 years (I was stationed there while in the Navy).
Perhaps they have cleared all that up since then, but I doubt it.

BTW: I did NOT make up those stats about LA being the most polluted city in the USA.
I saw an article on the browser (MSN).
Perhaps that was simply an Internet Hoax and LA is actually one of the cleanest Cities in the USA instead.....   :roll:


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Post Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:17 am 
 

whilst on one of my trips....i happened to be able to visit San Diego way back in 1995. i only stayed there about 2-3 days and wasnt really that fussed on the place. it was at the end of June, i seem to remember.

i remember going for a walk down to the waterfront, to take in the view of the warships etc. it was a nice warm sunny day, and from the photos i took (i checked them just a few hours ago), there wasnt any fog/smog or any form of general cloudiness.

course i could have just caught the place on a good day or something.

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Post Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:57 am 
 

So, um, anyone else read BC yet?  :D  8O


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Post Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:00 pm 
 

grodog wrote:So, um, anyone else read BC yet?  :D  8O


I did....quite enjoyable.  The only thing that, in my opinion, would have made it better is an updated black and white map to go along with the original.

Hopefully PPP has turned a corner and will continue to put out excellent stuff in a timely manner.  Looking forward to The Stalk in particular.  By the way Allan, whatever happened to the proposed Murlynd's Castle?  I was really anticipating that more than anything.  :(


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Post Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:27 pm 
 

Copies of BC still available?


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