Wow! That did get ugly...But I'm glad I have that information now. I won't be dealing with PPP under any circumstances ever again.

On a side note, dcas and grodog, you guys seem to be genuinely good and well liked folks. I think it may be time to stop enabling RJK. It seems his personality very much resembles his last name.

And I still don't have mine...Did he sell it twice?

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My SE was number 5 and I got that well over a month ago now.  I am still waiting on my $150 LE.   Oh yeah and people who worked the project are still waiting to be paid despite the fact that the project was fully complete with the exception of actually shipping the f**king items out back in August.  Yeah, thats right 6 months ago now...

Go-Captain Suzdal wrote:Just received mine, in record time (ordered Friday a.m., rec'd at app. 2:30 p.m. Monday) from NK (minor corner bump upon arrival, but no biggie . Seems interesting, if a bit slight; from what I can gather by cursory perusal it only covers one level of the city. The maps are cool, and I leafed through the booklet briefly, but I think I'll wait for the free .pdf download to read it through so I don't add more wear/tear.

Just to clarify, the free .pdf download is a transcription of the original ms., not a complete .pdf of the published module version.  

Go-Captain Suzdal wrote:Of course, the link to the password-protected download doesn't work properly, so I am now in line with everyone else waiting for PPP to get its act together....

Hmmm.  Some folks have reported problems accessing the file via Firefox and needing to update an Acrobat plugin first.  I'm also having a looping problem trying to load the file from IE via the published URL of http://www.pied-piper-publishing.com/in ... nscription
A direct link to the file is at
http://www.pied-piper-publishing.com/up ... e-city.pdf

Please post with your web browser and version and what problem you're seeing if you can't access the file, from one or the other URL.

Thanks!

If people involved with the production still haven't been paid, it doesn't seem like business capitol is staying within the business - which is never a good business model.

From reading the Necromancer Games thread, it seemed Allan was in the middle of it there too.  You are a glutton for punishment.

(I would also say that I genuinely believe that Allan's integrity and decency are not in any doubt whatsover- being involved in a project spiralling out of control like this  one has must be very stressful indeed)

gyg wrote:Allan's integrity and decency are not in any doubt whatsover

Yep.  I think we all agree that Allan is in it for his dedication to the old school material and he does what he can when he can.  BTW, is editing your main career Allan or just a side job?

Holy smokes! Clark is my new hero. I just wish I'd read that thread sooner. Looks like that all went down about 6 months before I got involved with PPP. Then again, to be absolutely honest, Rob treated me like a prince when I first joined up - even paying more than he had promised for the first bit of work I did for him. Nothing went sour between us until June of 2007.

I remember in the summer of 2006, I was driving with Rob to an ATM to get half of a payment, and he was babbling something about NG and about the (then) recent bashing he was taking over his withdrawal from the project with Gary over at TLG. I honestly wasn't in the loop enough to have heard any of the scuttlebutt, so I just nodded politely and lent an ear as he told his side of things. I hadn't had any exposure to either of the other companies at the time, but it sure did sound like everyone was dog-piling on poor old RJC. My experiences with the Trolls since then have been stellar, so the thread over on NG sure makes sense in retrospect.

Regarding Bottle City, I appreciate everyone's concern for the state of my payments. I'm not sure who else (aside from perhaps grodog?) still hasn't been paid from it - it was pretty much a 3-man show, but I know he still owes Jim Holloway for work on Tower of Blood. At any rate, I've given up any hope or expectation of remuneration. Despite grodog's best efforts to hasten my compensation, Rob is obviously taking me at my word that it's payment enough just to be done with his BS.

That's fine with me, since I'm a man of my word. Trust me, I'm not starving because some guy owes me a couple-hundred bucks. Sure, it would have been nice to have that extra scratch after the dozens of hours I put into his vaporware, but it's honestly been more about Rob's gall and the absolute frustration of the fans & collectors whom I busted my rump to satisfy. It pleases me that everyone's getting their stuff! As soon as the LE's drop into your eager little hands, I'll be happy to call this chapter closed.

The damage done to PPP's reputation is karma. We all know that the RPG industry is a tiny little world. The world of freelance artists is even smaller, so rest assured that his name is sullied among those ranks as well. I wonder if he ponders why all of his new artists ask for payment in advance...