I haven't purchased any of these items, and I'm not interested in any of these items, but it sounds like to me that it's one excuse after another.  This would lead me to believe it's not the snow, car, health, whatever.  I would guess it has more to do with the attitude.  I am not saying the excuses are lies; they're probably the truth.  But as many of you are making clear, there are seemingly work-arounds for each of the excuses.

And maybe I should just stay out of this since I don't know this guy, and he sounds incredibly creative, but everyone has to admit the string of excuses has been amazingly long.  The point has long past when the excuses aren't the reason for the delays; it's more likely the excuser.

I'm not trying to be mean; just observant.  I wish everyone the best.

It's so long ago I can't remember if I pre-ordered an LE or not. I usually do.  

I'm not phased by the wait: i've been on the waiting list for a telescope for 6 years and reckon I've probably got at least another 4 before I'm contacted. In that time I've been married and had two kids.

The usual form with the telescoipe is to give you a couple of weeks to make your mind up and come up with 50% of the price in advance as an earnest after leaving you hanging about for 10 years.

But, if it's worth the wait then no worries.

I'll let you know when mine arrives . Just ordered it; thanks for the tip. I was hesitant about ordering directly from PPP, especially after what I had read in this thread.

Wow, I'm really starting to feel like a sucker...and I only bought a SE.

islestrike wrote:Bottled City is now available for purchase from NobleKnight ...

Not good. Not good on many, many levels ...

I mean no offense to Allan and others who have posted here to keep us up to date and who probably feel like they are caught in the middle, but PPP needs a complete restructuring ... and that's if it's even a viable enterprise still.

I can't see too many people getting excited about extending the company an interest-free loan again. Especially when many of them aren't being repaid more than a year later.

Nice to know that Aaron was able to get his stock before the people who actually paid for the f**king thing got theirs.     According to Rob on the PPP site, they are supposedly all shipped out now:

http://p085.ezboard.com/fpiedpiperpubli ... 41&stop=48

So its going to be interesting to see what happens now.  I am really curious to see if he has also started paying his people who worked on it yet as well.

Just ordered from Noble Knight.  It was even offered at a discount to the cover price

Glad I waited on this

Jaybird216 wrote:Looks like I should order mine from NK too.   I wonder if they have my check.

You know what makes it even even more infuriating?  Someone over on DF posted that they ordered a copy iof the SE from NK and already got it.  

BTW, from what I understand, there is at least one other individual who worked on the project who is still waiting to paid that you may not even know about.  What a bunch of sh*t.

Just received mine, in record time (ordered Friday a.m., rec'd at app. 2:30 p.m. Monday) from NK (minor corner bump upon arrival, but no biggie . Seems interesting, if a bit slight; from what I can gather by cursory perusal it only covers one level of the city. The maps are cool, and I leafed through the booklet briefly, but I think I'll wait for the free .pdf download to read it through so I don't add more wear/tear. Of course, the link to the password-protected download doesn't work properly, so I am now in line with everyone else waiting for PPP to get its act together....