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g026r
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:21 am

And it's been removed.

Question is whether the seller removed it or eBay took issue with him outright stating that he was willing to sell to somebody other than the winning bidder. :roll:

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:32 am

Just wondering, does a seller lose their fees if Ebay removes their auction?

EDIT: I just looked it up and it seems Ebay can't really decided if they charge the fee or not:

eBay fees on listings cancelled due to a policy violation may or may not be refunded, depending on the policy violated and/or the seller's prior (non)-compliance with eBay policies.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:42 am

g026r wrote:And it's been removed.

Question is whether the seller removed it or eBay took issue with him outright stating that he was willing to sell to somebody other than the winning bidder.

Yes, and I think a good follow-up question from there would be, if eBay removed the listing, was it as a result of someone from here reporting it to them? I think that action --trying to get an auction for a rare D&D item removed from the open marketplace --would be antithetical of what is promoted here by this collective.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:06 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=015

Whew!

bclarkie... My max was $71... I was hoping to pick that up cheaper though! rrrrrrrrr!

Now I have to go tell the wife she is getting "Vecna Lives" for Christmas instead of something else...

I do not anticipate amusement...

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:54 am

bonk! wrote:I think that action --trying to get an auction for a rare D&D item removed from the open marketplace --would be antithetical of what is promoted here by this collective.

That might be a question to start a new thread over. But I reported the auction as listing violation under not actually having an item for sale or something like that. I don't think it is antithetical to what is promoted here at all. I think one thing that is strongly promoted here is that when a rare comes up, you want to be sure that the seller is honest and you will get what you paid for.

With the auction listing as it was, there was no such guarantee that the seller would even sell it to the highest bidder. The listing was clearly just a fishing expedition to try and get offers. Would the seller have canceled the auction if it had bidders but he got a better private offer? Probably. If he wants to accept private offers then he should sell it privately not on Ebay. If he wants to sell it on Ebay then he should guarantee that he'll actually sell it to the highest bidder on Ebay.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:47 pm

I reported it as well. What an idiot.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:49 pm

** expired/removed eBay auction **
sPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=015

Wow! Now I feel all glad I bought mine for 1/3rd that (and thought that was high.) When did this item get so expensive?

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:04 pm

Deadlord39 wrote:I reported it as well. What an idiot.

Ditto. And the fact it was removed shows we weren't the only ones who thought it was a tad, how should we say, ambiguous. Mars is right, it was just a fishing expedition....

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:06 pm

serleran wrote:
Wow! Now I feel all glad I bought mine for 1/3rd that (and thought that was high.) When did this item get so expensive?

Anything Vecna related (including Die, Vecna Die and Vecna Reborn) has been rising in value lately. However, as with all auctions, I would wait to see a trend develop, since sometimes two individuals competing can drive a price far beyond it's worth. If the next one sells for $30, well....

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:14 pm

serleran wrote:
Wow! Now I feel all glad I bought mine for 1/3rd that (and thought that was high.) When did this item get so expensive?

It got expensive because it was in still in shirnk. I also took into account with my bid that it would be replacing a copy that didn't have shrink(as I still collect those types of things

), so I would be likely selling off the one it replaced for likely half of my bid.

Sorry 'bout that Matt.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:23 pm

Its back up now:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Still very agressive opening bid though. This time minus the objectionable langauge....

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:18 pm

Mars wrote:
I reported the auction as listing violation under not actually having an item for sale or something like that. I don't think it is antithetical to what is promoted here at all. I think one thing that is strongly promoted here is that when a rare comes up, you want to be sure that the seller is honest and you will get what you paid for.

With the auction listing as it was, there was no such guarantee that the seller would even sell it to the highest bidder. The listing was clearly just a fishing expedition to try and get offers.

The item being relisted "minus the objectionable language" (bclarkie) doesn't mean a whole lot now of course, as the damage to the seller's veracity has already been done. There remains the taint from the previous auction snafu... He may very well still be fishing for offers, but just not stating it so openly now. Which, in a way, means that the seller was being _more_ honest with the original auction, which members got pulled from eBay because it smacked of dishonesty. Ironic.

Has anyone here actually had a bad transaction with this seller?

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:33 pm

Does anyone know if the seller is the same person that supposedly picked up the ST1 mentioned in this thread?

viewtopic.php?t=6156&highlight=st1

I also think it kind of strange that the seller has essentially copied nearly the entire contents of the ST1 webpage from The Acaeum (including the links) and does not even mention The Acaeum anywhere in his auction description and not one single person has mentioned it in this thread. Did anyone send an email to the seller or Ebay to complain about it?

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:37 pm

Kingofpain89 wrote:Does anyone know if the seller is the same person that supposedly picked up the ST1 mentioned in this thread?

viewtopic.php?t=6156&highlight=st1

I mentioned it in my posting for the first auction 2 pages back:

bclarkie wrote:The aforementioned(in another thread), ST1:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Opening bid is extremely agressive though.

I would be extremely surprised if this wasn't the same guy.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:43 pm

So Gary Kramer would be someone in the know...

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:27 pm

With the "objectionable language" removed, I would hope that seller realizes that they should sell it to the highest bidder should there be one. If that doesn't happen and it is sold to a 3rd party after the auction finishes, then the high bidder probably has some recourse through Ebay to file a non-selling seller. It would also say a lot about the seller's character.

I don't have any doubt that the seller is genuine and whoever is willing to pay the most will get this copy but the whole auction is just a lazy listing. Clearly, the seller knows of the Acaeum and if they wanted to test the market could easily have posted it in the classifieds to get some offers. Instead it is whipped up onto Ebay with the might sell it here or might sell it to someone else clause.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:35 pm

bclarkie wrote:
It got expensive because it was in still in shirnk.

I got my SW copy on eBay back in January 2007 for a grand total of 49.44 USD, shipping costs and insurance included.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:36 pm

I didn't get the feeling that the seller wouldn't honour a winning bid on the ebay auction for the ST1 - the way I interpreted it from his words and the price it was listed at, if someone bid $2k and wins the auction, he'll sell at that price no problem.

But I don't think he was expecting to sell at that price. He knows that the "value" of an ST1 is probably $1200-1500, but he's hoping that there may be someone out there willing to pay $2k. So he listed it up - if it sells, he's pretty happy, but more realistically he expects to get offers closer to it's "worth".

Like Mars said, a better approach would be through the classifieds here. Or do what he is now doing - list at $2k without any reference to offers, as undoubtedly he'll get a bunch either way.

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