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Poll: Favorite OD&D Supplement

Greyhawk 28%       28%  [ 16 ]
Blackmoor 28%       28%  [ 16 ]
Eldritch Wizardry 21%       21%  [ 12 ]
Gods, Demigods & Heroes 9%       9%  [ 5 ]
Swords & Spells 3%       3%  [ 2 ]
No preference 12%       12%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 58

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:48 pm 
 

Aneoth wrote:BTW: The Thief is My own personal favorite class PC to role play.



Mine too, hence my nickname.  I was primarily a DM, but when I did play, I used some variant of the same thief character each campaign.

You're right about the illogic of reading scrolls, etc, but I think that's one of the thing I liked about that class and about OD&D/1E in general ... the fact that not everything made sense.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:03 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:Well, with 960 members, we're not really close to a statistically significant sample size yet.

I think we'd need about 90 votes to have +/- 10% confidence level, but things are definitely trending toward a tie between Greyhawk and Blackmoor.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:06 pm 
 

If only Mayor Daley (Sr.) of Chicago were here to help with the vote count.


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:00 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:
Mine too, hence my nickname.  I was primarily a DM, but when I did play, I used some variant of the same thief character each campaign.

You're right about the illogic of reading scrolls, etc, but I think that's one of the thing I liked about that class and about OD&D/1E in general ... the fact that not everything made sense.

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Oh believe it, also I took full advantage of those same rules; hence my preference for the thief. If played well and not too harshly treated by die rolls, a decent thief can be quite a force.

And yes, your nickname was the reason I noted my own preference for sneeking and hiding and such.


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:59 pm 
 

Aneoth wrote:... my own preference for sneeking and hiding and such.


I enjoyed moving silently and hiding in shadows, of course, but I think my favorite aspect of the class was picking pockets.  Not only was it fun to walk down a city street and snag a gold piece from each victim (which adds up in a hurry), but it was also a hell of a lot of fun to put stuff into people's pockets ... nothing quite like the joy of putting a poison dart into some royal family NPC's waistcoat and sitting back to watch the fun ...

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:15 am 
 

With 46 votes we're more than halfway there.

Greyhawk is starting to pull into the lead.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:30 am 
 

Nooooooo..come on Blackmoor!!!
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:14 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:Nooooooo..come on Blackmoor!!!
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Agreed!  

Calling all Blackmoorianlanders!  

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:11 pm 
 

- Sends out hordes of Frogs to persuade the non-voters.
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:32 pm 
 

i always liked blackmoor



  


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:21 am 
 

I dunno; after reading Tim Kask's dissertation on how Blackmoor got written, it's a tough call! :)

  

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:07 am 
 

DungeonDelver wrote:I dunno; after reading Tim Kask's dissertation on how Blackmoor got written, it's a tough call! :)


Do you have a link?  I'd like to read it.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:40 pm 
 

With 52 of the members reporting, Greyhawk and Blackmoor are locked in a dead dead for first place, but don't count out Eldritch Wizardry just yet.

We still need at least 38 more votes to have a good sample.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:38 pm 
 

Here's the link to Tim Kask's account of Blackmoor.  Start at "The Basket; or, You want me to make what of that?"
http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewt ... &start=225
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:41 pm 
 

stumbling tiger wrote:Here's the link to Tim Kask's account of Blackmoor.  Start at "The Basket; or, You want me to make what of that?"
http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewt ... &start=225
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That was a really enlightening post from Tim Kask.  It makes me wonder how much material was in that apple basket that could've/should've made its way into D&D but could not be due to the overwhelming disorganization.  Also interesting to note that Kask devised the psionic combat rules, evidently based on a comic book concept (I've never read comics, and I don't care for psionics either ... but I digress).

Interesting too that Gygax does not discuss the collective effort of the supplement's creation in his forward.  Arneson gives "special thanks" to Kask and others on the title page, but given Mr. Kask's description of the events, it seems like Gygax would've acknowledged that it was indeed a group effort.  I think this could've been done without diminishing Arneson's major contribution to the work.

This doesn't change my mind about Blackmoor being my personal favorite, but it does change the way I look at Eldritch Wizardry.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:30 pm 
 

Great article! You know, with a little editing, this article would make a great chapter in the history of D&D.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:03 pm 
 

My vote has to go to Blackmoor.  Sorry, sorry, I like Eldritch Wizardry as much as the next guy but the Temple of the Frog pretty much secured it for me.  And as the DA-series of modules were some of my favorite both to read and play, this just clinches it.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:33 pm 
 

The Frogs are doing their job :twisted:

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:39 pm 
 

MichaelC wrote:My vote has to go to Blackmoor.  Sorry, sorry, I like Eldritch Wizardry as much as the next guy but the Temple of the Frog pretty much secured it for me.  And as the DA-series of modules were some of my favorite both to read and play, this just clinches it.

One more for Blackmoor.

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We're in the same boat ... perhaps I should say in the same swamp.  :)

I think the DA-series was my favorite to DM, although the A-series comes in a close second.  

My players' favorites were the A-series and S-2.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:52 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:I think the DA-series was my favorite to DM, although the A-series comes in a close second.

I'll tell you what got me as far as the DA-series goes.  I bought DA1 - Adventures in Blackmoor because of the really weird war machine-thing depicted on the cover (it was shrinkwrapped at KayBee toys, and I was all of 11 I think, so looks were everything).  At the same time, I also bought DA3 - City of the Gods, X6 - Quagmire and CM4 - Earthshaker!  Mom let me get all four of them because they were on clearance 2/$5 (how on earth do I remember this, but I can't remember where I put down my can of Dr Pepper an hour ago??).  As an 11-12 year old, Earthshaker and City of the Gods really hit the top of my list as far as fun reading went.  Quagmire was OK, but I really didn't know what to think of Adventures in Blackmoor.  I mean...it was just...an Inn.  With some time travel stuff thrown in.  And I couldn't find that neat war machine anywhere inside.  So I put that one aside.

A couple years later, I was looking through my collection, saw it, and pulled it out again to read.  And man, I was blown away.  To an 11-year old, the Comeback Inn wasn't nearly as cool as a huge steam-and-coal-driven giant.  To the fourteen year-old who re-opened that book, though, the Comeback Inn became one of the COOLEST things I had ever seen.  Hepath Nun's suicide note alone was worth the price of admission - that's got to be one of the top 10 best monologues I've ever read, and I even memorized it and delivered it for my Speech class my sophomore year.

So yeah...Blackmoor rocks my world, and DA-1 sits as one of my favorite modules of all time.  I've yet to see anything from 3E that comes close to that level of writing and immersion.

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