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FormCritic
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:49 pm

My example is correct: Dead on. Bingo. Ka-pow! Splat! Zap! Bullseye!

My example is so correct there are teams of Chinese scientists working right now to see if they can possibly duplicate such an example of absolute, angelic, ethereal, Olympian exactly right correctness.

That is a "revised" version of a first edition text.

The seller is confusing "edition" and "printing."

I think the seller knows this very well as it would take a real fool not to understand what "revised" means.

"But I have watched the dragons come, fire-eyed, across the world."

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:54 pm

There is always a first printing of every revised edition.

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:03 pm

Well, the humor has been completely sucked out of this one ... :roll:

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:13 pm

Well, I said it was a pet peeve. Sorry about that. But, we do all collect in an area where printing priority is a significant interest.

Maybe a FAQ with standard definitions of printing, edition and basic conservation issues with links to archival vendors and maybe the ABAA (Antiquarian Booksellers Association of America) would be useful to folks?

I presume we are all collecting for fun... but also here because we want to get it right?

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:25 pm

Xaxaxe wrote:Well, the humor has been completely sucked out of this one ...

OK . . . how about a seller's ability to choose the rarity of an item?

Here's an auction for pre-painted plastic D&D minis:

. . .
** expired/removed eBay auction **

Note the text that says

In some of my lots you may see a figure which is normally common listed as uncommon or rare.

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:30 pm

I just thought it was funny that the seller doesn't realize that a "first" of anything, by definition, cannot be "revised." The terms are mutually exclusive. It looked to me like we riffing on that before things got all serious.

I now exit the thread, wishing I'd never seen the damn thing. Jesus wept.

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:33 pm

LOL, now that's funny. They usually do that on the pick your lot auctions/buy it nows. The bigger ones and a few of the high demand ones, get bumped up a tier so you can't gut their most desirable figures with one bid. It is funny as hell though.

Especially, since... there is nothing rare..... they are common, more common and common as dirt, in reality.

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:52 pm

I know I am geeking on this but his listing is amusing the hell out of me. I can't see that he says anything wrong. Which is almost as funny as the fact that in spite of that he does appear to be an idiot. I just can't "know" that, because he could be deliberately crafting his words to drum up attention without saying anything actually wrong.

The tone of the message suggests that as collectors we should give a damn about the printing and that is causing us pause.

He correctly notes that it is a revised edition. He also correctly notes that it may be a first printing. (by default of the revised edition).

We are implying from the listing tone that he thinks we should give a damn about the printing. Then since we know that we likely only care significantly about a first printing of the first edition we are leaping to the conclusion that he is suggesting that his copy might be a very valuable first printing of the first edition. (which would make him an idiot).

So we have a circular argument where we are guessing what he means, when we already know that we don't really care about his revised edition... no matter the printing. hehe.

If he is not an idiot... he is crafty as hell and to be avoided. There are booksellers who intentionally mislead customers with descriptions like this and hence after over thirty years of involvement in the book trade, my frustration/pet peeve over the issue.

For instance, how would you like to pay $125 for a "first printing" illustrated copy of alice and wonderland... and had no recourse... because a ten day old $10 book arrived with a few illustrations added to the edition. It used to happen all the time and probably still does.

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:11 pm

If the seller mistakenly misidentifies a book, then a knowledgeable buyer will know what to check beforehand. A less discriminating buyer won't know/care. If the seller can identify exactly, then a collector benefits, and the same average buyer is unchanged. So there's no harm all the way around.

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:57 am

I don't need the 2e PHB or the 3e DMG, but the briefcase is rockin'!

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Think he can really ship a briefcase for $6 priority?

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:53 am

The description struck me as humorous:
** expired/removed eBay auction **

Ebay Seller wrote:I haven't played in years and have been lugging these things around for some time now. They have gotten quite heavy so I have decided to lighten my load. The book is gently used, but old, I have taken pretty good care of it and it's last few years have been packed in a box.

Emphasis mine. The "old" item in question: a 3.5 Players Handbook from 2003.

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:46 pm

Sharp-edged RPG dice lot . . . with two of the other kind of roleplaying dice. Could make for an interesting tabletop encounter:

. . .
** expired/removed eBay auction **

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:04 pm

Odd description.

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#3 SOMEONE HAS SINGED THEY'RE NAME

Perhaps it were a bardish ROUGE.

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:08 pm

JohnGaunt wrote:Sharp-edged RPG dice lot . . . with two of the other kind of roleplaying dice. Could make for an interesting tabletop encounter:

. . .
** expired/removed eBay auction **

Look at the shipping price!

This is the sort of shipping rip-off seller you have to watch for.

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:29 pm

FormCritic wrote:Look at the shipping price!

This is the sort of shipping rip-off seller you have to watch for.

Bid low and zing him on the shipping DSR. Works for me.

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:46 pm

JohnGaunt wrote:Bid low and zing him on the shipping DSR. Works for me.

$8 for shipping already well exceeds the value of the dice in the auction.

I tried going through the Ebay procedure for reporting a shipping ripoff but the process has gotten tricky.

You have to choose topic headings to make the report. The headings form a flowchart of secondary headings. None of the available choices seems to lead right to a shipping ripoff report.

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:11 pm

FormCritic wrote:
$8 for shipping already well exceeds the value of the dice in the auction.

I tried going through the Ebay procedure for reporting a shipping ripoff but the process has gotten tricky.

You have to choose topic headings to make the report. The headings form a flowchart of secondary headings. None of the available choices seems to lead right to a shipping ripoff report.

$25.00 to ship to Canada

So expensive it could be a Noble Knight auction :evil:

Games can get you through times of no money but money can not get you through times of no games!!

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:37 pm

FormCritic wrote:$8 for shipping already well exceeds the value of the dice in the auction.

Value? Perhaps.

But I think it will actually fetch closer to $12-15 + shipping.

I've been following used mixed rpg dice lots a little bit the last couple months, and they go for quite a bit more than I originally thought they would. Roughly speaking, about .10-.25 each for d6, plus about .30-.50 each for other polyhedrals, give or take based on condition, with lower per-dice prices on larger collections, and possibly slightly higher prices for the precision-edge stuff.

Here are some examples:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

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