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Post Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:20 pm 
 

I always love seeing the fees for picking up locally. The funny thing is that they just go ahead and list their home address on the auction.  :lol:



And the media mail charge is jacked WAY up...




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On an unrelated note, if you feel like you'd be interested in catching up on some reading, try this other one of theirs.  Of course, your only option is the "convenience fee" for pickup...



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Post Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:14 pm 
 

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What an idiot. He says that he only listed paypal because ebay wouldn't let him list otherwise.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:02 pm 
 

I didn't realize Frank Mentzer had a nickname.  I guess they don't call him "compiled by" for nothing :lol:




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Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:24 pm 
 

Trying to skate around selling pdf's and print outs? There's a nice long explanation. I'm not sure I buy that the seller has taken the time to scan in all of his items...



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Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:12 pm 
 

misterspock wrote:Trying to skate around selling pdf's and print outs? There's a nice long explanation. I'm not sure I buy that the seller has taken the time to scan in all of his items...


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Reported him.  :evil:


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:49 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:
Reported him.  :evil:


And the listing has been removed...

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:14 am 
 

Grug Greyskin wrote:
And the listing has been removed...
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Post Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:56 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:    :)




Excellent.



He might have gotten away with it but he posted his email address. A big no-no with ebay because they don't want people selling outside of ebay.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:18 pm 
 

Unpainted Orc?! Could be - alternatively a blink dog or a phase spider :D



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Post Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:26 pm 
 

gyg wrote:Unpainted Orc?! Could be - alternatively a blink dog or a phase spider :D


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It's bloody something!  :lol:


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:05 am 
 

benjoshua wrote:
It's bloody something!  :lol:


Looks like Cougarrinard's gelatinous cube.


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:14 am 
 

gyg wrote:Unpainted Orc?! Could be - alternatively a blink dog or a phase spider :D


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Displacer Beast.  You can tell by the blurry outline  :D


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:36 pm 
 

Figure this one out...



The copyright inside says "Revised Edition - December, 1979", with no mention of a printing version - making this a possible FIRST PRINTING!




http://cgi.ebay.com/AD-D-DUNGEON-MASTER ... 286.c0.m14



If it's a FIRST PRINTING!, then why would it be a "Revised Edition"? :)

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:34 pm 
 

misterspock wrote:Figure this one out...




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If it's a FIRST PRINTING!, then why would it be a "Revised Edition"? :)




It's a first printing of a revised edition!



Its a first printing....



...It's a revised edition



First printing...



.... Revised edition



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:40 pm 
 

Well, that is certainly a pet peeve for me.... so I sent the following.  Feel free to comment, edit, clarify and use as will.  If we send something like this to sellers, eventually they will know more about book collecting.

Revised printings by default can not be a first printing of the first edition.  Were it a first printing of another edition, it would be irrelevant since people who collect first printings are generally looking for the first edition.  For the edition to change, revisions must be made.  Printings change every time they reprint due to sales.  So, for instance a first edition may not be worth much if it is a 15th printing of the first edition and a 2cnd edition is seldom collectible if it is the first printing of the second edition.  For a couple of centuries collectors have focused on first printings of first editions.  The exceptions are when the revision contain material that is unique and more important... than the original first edition.  (for example, hypothetically a book of prints might have a second edition with an essay by Salvador Dali about how bad they are... and a print by Dali... that would likely be of much greater interest than the book of bad prints in an earlier printing even the first printing of the first edition.)  Booksellers sometimes use the term first thus to distinguish and call attention to the distinction.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:49 pm 
 

I don't think they'll get it.  The concept is too complicated.

How about:

"This book is from the first "edition" of AD&D.

It is not a first "print" of this particular book.

The word "revised" should tell you that because a first "print" cannot be "revised."  How can you "revise" something before you print it?

There is a huge difference in the price of a "print" and an "edition."

Here is a link that will help you sort out the printings:  <Acaeum Link>"


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:02 pm 
 

The only problem is by making it potentially easier to understand it becomes incorrect.  This book may be a first printing of a revised edition and that is not usually what they think they have, nor is it what we usually want to collect.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:09 pm 
 

Pipswich wrote:The only problem is by making it potentially easier to understand it becomes incorrect.

Yes, but it's far, far better (hey, you asked for opinions ...).

Your original note is a dense wall of text, likely to have the recipient reaching for the delete key by the second sentence. It is full of minutiae that is of interest to almost no regular human being, and your examples are, frankly, confusing.

Far better to point the seller to the DMG page here, which uses many identifiers to help us all determine editions/printings.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:25 pm 
 

Well, if our issue is that they are incorrect, responding with an answer that is also incorrect, seems pointless.  Sending them here will help, if they are selling from within a small subset of d&d collecting, but the same issue will apply to every collectible book they list.  If buyers and sellers learn a little bit more about printings and editions, then some of the crazy listings will end up correct.  When I have time, I will try to come up with a tighter explanation of the difference between editions and printings, but I haven't seen any that I liked and found novice friendly.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:35 pm 
 

Oh, and I read back a bit and saw a bit of further confusion.  This issue is particularly confusing for d&d collecting.  What TSR/Wotc have labeled as "editions" and here commonly called ODD, ADD or 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3.5 and 4th are in effect different books/games entirely.  There are are usually multiple "editions" of many of the d&d books within what TSR/WOTC confusingly marketed as a single edition.  So we have editions within editions using two different definitions of the word... one in traditional book terms and the other a marketing strategy to distinguish separate books and games under the umbrella idea of "Dungeons and Dragons".  

I am aware this is confusing and some of it is likely my writing, but most of it is because the issue is confusing to most people.  Also, because marketing teams and book makers seldom know the difference or give a hoot about what book collectors might want or need.  Frankly, almost every major book company started using standardized codes to identify printings before D&D was even conceived... the fact that we can't look at the title or copyright page and identify the printing easily is downright odd and it is no wonder that most traditional booksellers and semi-professional listing services are often wrong.


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