MetamorphosisSigma wrote:
I think this is exactly right. But when the confusion is about the words "before" and "after" I don't see how a dictionary can help. I think he understands the term "prototype"; where I think his mental block (if there indeed is one) lies is in the notion that the booklets are labeled "copyright 1974" and the box reads "Original Collector's Edition", which by some kind of bizarro-logic seems to mean to him that it's the first printing.

However, he seems to have toned down his rhetoric on relisting the item.

I read (and re-read) the original posting multiple times. I never saw a claim that the box set was a prototype within the listing. It wasn't until the word 'prototype' was suggested by a potential buyer (?) that he went along with calling it such: "Q: Is this the prototype set for all the D&D versions that came before it? A: Hello There Yes, The White Set was the Prototype for Dungeons and Dragons. It was the first product ever released by Tactical Studies Rules in 1974 which later became known as TSR. It came with 3 booklets. TSR later released 4 more booklets to go with the White Set in 1976. Hence this is a complete White Set. I hope this answers your question. Please don't hesitate to contact me again if you have any further questions Ron"

This seems like a childish setup, orchestrated by the question-asker who knew full well that the OCE was not a prototype but was hoping that the seller would go along with it. This is supported by the wording of the question "prototype....all the D&D versions that came BEFORE it?"

If the seller had actually advertised the OCE as a prototype, then I could understand the subsequent outpouring of derision from the members here. Instead, he fell for a prank (like when you have  friend get on all fours behind someone so that you can push the unsuspecting nerd backward causing him to fall over your crouching accomplice).

I just hope neither pusher nor croucher is a member here

If it was a member, then I certainly hope you derived whatever validation you needed as a result of your prank.

I absolutely agree that the price was (and still is) too high, but flicking of booger on someone so that you can point and yell "Hey look at this kid with a booger on him" is simply bullying...

I never saw the original version, but see that he adjusted the listing on 28 September. Maybe that is when he removed the word. If that is how this all happened, then it seems as though he responded appropriately to some of the members' emails and changed the wording. In this case, then it is really just a matter of a mistake in semantics and, while funny, hardly cause for speculation by some that he was being dishonest.

And, by the way, sorry if it seemed like I was making it out that I was directly talking to you. I just happened to quote your comment because it was the last in the thread related to the "prototype" OCE.

Basically, this issue just seemed a bit like a feeding frenzy of sorts, and there still doesn't seem to be a good reason. Maybe it is just a slow news day...

I guess its a good thing Al Sharpton isnt a D&D collector:



http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEGROMIGAN-ROLE ... 7871963269

This thread needed a little bumparoonie.



If these are SUPER RARE, then I guess 1st print woodgrains must be an urban legend.

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Oh the pain!  The pain!

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Check out the bottom, right corner.

Kingofpain89 wrote:
Corner wear?!?  

Looks like it was used as a chew toy.  

Several of the other modules he has for sale are equally as bad... 'critter bites'  

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HermitFromPluto wrote:Would you like a wing or a drumstick:

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.......hold me back.

My right click button seems to have been disabled on this page.

ExTSR wrote:

HermitFromPluto wrote:Vintage-LJN-AD-D-Dungeons-and-Dragons-Wing-and-Leg-of-Monster

::snatch::
I know what they go to, and I could use 'em.
Silly? Not at all. The applicable figs are on the rare side.

I know that as well: with a full ressurrection spell you can obtain the body as a whole with a limited part of it such a wing or a leg...