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smarmy1
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:19 pm

Glad it worked out.

Hello Mrs. Cleaver, Theodore.

Gee, Mrs. Cleaver ... That certainly is a lovely dress.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:57 pm

On more thing.
The E-Bay person I talked to this morning told me that E-Bay does not even accept or want photos as additional information in regards to claims.
Which explained why they never told me where to send the ones I have.

In the future, I plan to use my credit card rather than Paypal balance or my checking account, to pay for moderate to expensive items.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:06 pm

Gnat the Beggar wrote:In the future, I plan to use my credit card rather than Paypal balance or my checking account, to pay for moderate to expensive items.

That's deffinately the best thing all round. I deliberately empty my PayPal balance before any transaction over about $40 and use my credit card. If there's no space on my cards I don't buy. I've been glad to have done it that way more than once.

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:16 pm

Yes, $40 was actually what I was thinking too.

FWIW: ANY advice offered from my fellow Acaeum members is ALWAYS appreciated.
Even if I am sometimes too dim-witted to accept and follow it. :oops:

BTW: I got two messages from the seller this afternoon.
First she said if I sent her MORE shipping funds she would ship it back to me again.

Then, almost right after that one, she sent this:

Dear aneoth,
Actually, I've rethought that. Ebay ruled in my favor as the item sent to me was not the one that I shipped to you and has closed the case, therefore I am also considering the matter closed and will not be responding to any further communications.
- kestrle

That was sent several hours AFTER I won the appeal and even after I got the full refund from E-Bay.
I am still peeved that she gets to keep ALL of MY MONEY AND the itmes both.
Freaking insane!

I would bet a nickle she will relist that set on E-Bay in the next few days.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:51 pm

If she does, let's do an "Acaeum" bit on here and bombard here with idiotic questions. It's the only way to be sure :twisted:

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:23 pm

Gnat the Beggar wrote:Yes, $40 was actually what I was thinking too.

FWIW: ANY advice offered from my fellow Acaeum members is ALWAYS appreciated.
Even if I am sometimes too dim-witted to accept and follow it.

BTW: I got two messages from the seller this afternoon.
First she said if I sent her MORE shipping funds she would ship it back to me again.

Then, almost right after that one, she sent this:

That was sent several hours AFTER I won the appeal and even after I got the full refund from E-Bay.
I am still peeved that she gets to keep ALL of MY MONEY AND the itmes both.
Freaking insane!

I would bet a nickle she will relist that set on E-Bay in the next few days.

I'm confused - how did you win the appeal yet she gets to keep your money? If it was in her Paypal account, they got it. If she had a checking account attached to her Paypal account, they got it.

What am I missing?

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:32 pm

Since the item was delivered NOT as described, the claim went through E-Bay, not Paypal.

From what I understood from the E-Bay dude who worked with me on the phone this morning:
E-Bay paid me through its own pocket and did so within moments of my phone call.
For all intents and purposes, I have no dog in that hunt now.

As far as I know, E-Bay has allowed her to keep the damaged items AND my stolen funds.

E-Bay might go after her (or her money) in one or another, or in more than one way.
Most probably I wont ever know if they did anything with/to her at all.

I suspect she will move forward thinking she got the best of me since she not only gets to keep my money, but could even re-sell the items yet again.
And if E-Bay does nothing more, then she will have gotten away with fraud/theft.

One good thing, she will play hell trying to sell anything on E-Bay with her newly aquired and richly deserved Feedback rating of 66.7%.
That is if E-Bay does not reverse my feedback of course... :roll:

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:32 pm

stylean wrote:
I'm confused - how did you win the appeal yet she gets to keep your money? If it was in her Paypal account, they got it. If she had a checking account attached to her Paypal account, they got it.

What am I missing?

1) Ebay can and does do whatever the hell it likes.
2) There is suppossedly a seller protection that can kick in with a he said/ she said kind of case.
3) See number 1

"You get more with a kind word and an excruciator than with just a kind word."

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:37 pm

Just so it wont get lost...

The sellers E-Bay ID is:

kestrle

!AVOID!

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:58 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ptolus-City-Spire-M ... 4cf686077f

I dare you.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:31 pm

stylean wrote:
** expired/removed eBay auction **

I dare you.

The description is priceless:

TODAY I AM INCLUDING A BONUS

THE PLAYER'S GUIDE TO PTOLUS

GOES TO THE WINNING BID FOR

FREE!!

Gee whiz, thanks bro. Maybe you're willing to do that because when this first came out, every game store was giving out the Player's Guide to Ptolus FOR FREE?

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:57 pm

They have responded to Gnat's feedback :

   *
   Reply by kestrle (Apr-13-11 14:12):
   Ebay Resolution dept reviewed the case, ruled in my favor agreed no pymt due.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:06 pm

If they truly did rule in her favor, the negative feedback would be removed as well correct? Seems some people at Ebay and Paypal have gotten their wires crossed if she still thinks she "won". :scratch:

You don't like your job, you don't strike. You go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way. - Homer Simpson

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:13 pm

GreyM wrote:They have responded to Gnat's feedback :

Can I reply to her lies there?
She is working more of her avoidance of CURRENT FACTS.
E-Bay gave in to her yesterday evening.
I called them this morning and the case was reversed in my favor within 4 minutes time.

And yes, if E-Bay REALLY agreed with her my feedback would be rejected forthwith.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:15 pm

Gnat the Beggar wrote:Can I reply to her lies there?

I would just let sleeping dogs lie if I were you. You got your money back. That would be enough justice for me. No need to drag it out with her any further.

You don't like your job, you don't strike. You go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way. - Homer Simpson

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:20 pm

Kingofpain89 wrote:I would just let sleeping dogs lie if I were you. You got your money back. That would be enough justice for me. No need to drag it out with her any further.

In truth I got the same amount of money from E-Bay.
MY Money is till in asshats pocket...

She is a thief and a liar and she is getting away with it.
Still her feedback has not changed... yet.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:28 pm

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
In truth I got the same amount of money from E-Bay.
MY Money is till in asshats pocket...

What's the difference, really (to you)?

Besides, if they've reversed the decision in your favor, I have no doubt that eBay and PayPal will start talking, and they'll be retrieving their/your money from her post-haste.

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:44 am

Hi,

the seller has now changed id, and become zero feedback.

How did they do that then?

Cheers,
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