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SimperingToad
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:54 pm

TheHistorian wrote:He relisted it for more money. Screw him.

That would seem to give you more ammunition in a dispute.

TheHistorian
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:04 pm

SimperingToad wrote:That would seem to give you more ammunition in a dispute.

I guess it makes me even more right. That doesn't actually *do* anything though.

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stylean
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:23 pm

Maybe not super-shady, but in case anyone decides to drop some change on clrnc_s78, he either wont or doesn't grasp the combined shipping aspect of sending more than 1 of the same item in the same box.

Shipping options for 3 Dungeon magazines (3 seperate auctions won) like 3 states over:

Shipping and handling via USPS Priority Mail:    $35.95
Other shipping choices:
USPS Media Mail:$10.26
USPS Parcel Post:$28.95

FormCritic
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:34 pm

TheHistorian wrote:He relisted it for more money. Screw him.

Contact Ebay immediately.

Please post a link.

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:57 pm

FormCritic wrote:

Contact Ebay immediately.

Please post a link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0651500490

What more do you feel I can say to eBay? I declined the sale cancellation offer. I left negative feedback. I opened a complaint with customer service. I didn't know there were further options.

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misterspock
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:15 pm

TheHistorian wrote:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

What more do you feel I can say to eBay? I declined the sale cancellation offer. I left negative feedback. I opened a complaint with customer service. I didn't know there were further options.

I thought his description made no sense...as if the photo is one he grabbed from Kynan off of ToT?

Cover image and item description information courtesy of Kynan Connor, USA.

Then I looked at ToT and saw he just copied and pasted the info...how utterly stupid.

http://tomeoftreasures.com/tot_odd/core ... nd_oce.htm

mbassoc2003
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:35 am

TheHistorian wrote:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

What more do you feel I can say to eBay? I declined the sale cancellation offer. I left negative feedback. I opened a complaint with customer service. I didn't know there were further options.

There are no further options.

You could always start a private prosecution in the small claims court agains the guy for breach of contract. Force him to your juristiction even if you win nothing.

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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:47 am

I think the only thing that would help your case is if its relisted for less than $165, which he stated was his price originally.
The guy is clearly a dick and doing anymore than what you've done already is going to cause you agg. Neg his arse, raise a complaint and move on I say. At least the guys here know not to buy from him.
Was $65 particularly well priced for this at the start or about right? I dont watch these.

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FormCritic
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:54 am

TheHistorian wrote:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

What more do you feel I can say to eBay? I declined the sale cancellation offer. I left negative feedback. I opened a complaint with customer service. I didn't know there were further options.

Now report the fraudulent listing. Point out where he is re-selling the same item.

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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:17 am

FormCritic wrote:
Now report the fraudulent listing. Point out where he is re-selling the same item.

Is it fraudulent though? I'd say not. But as he has listed it for $90, clearly not the $165 he said he should have listed it, then he is being an ass and ebay should do something about that, but clearly won't.

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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:10 pm

Deception for the purpose of getting money.

That is the definition of fraud. The seller offered a product at a price. The seller defaulted on the sale and lied about the reasons. Fraud.

Probably a bit melodramatic.

The concept of an Ebay auction does not work if the seller does not accept the risk that an item will sell lower than he wanted.

Ebay should hammer him.

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Thunderdave
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:46 pm

Part of my duties out in the real world involves dealing with vehicle auctions... our contract is quite strict with serious sanctions for conduct that undermines the intergrity of the auction process (e.g. shilling, side deals, abuse of 'lemon laws')... I expect the standard is quite high for reputable auction house (art, antiques?)... sadly the ebay standard is only a high as the time & trouble it takes to open a new account... I'd make my complaint, post here, then move on... I'm sorry it didn't work out for you

Mars
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:35 pm

Yes, the Ebay standard is pretty low. The seller can do this twice more before Ebay will suspend the account.

TheHistorian
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:39 am

It didn't sell at $90. Thank you all for that!

Relisted again at $60/75 BIN.

Tempted to try to win this for less than I did the first time. :twisted:

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:48 am

TheHistorian wrote:Relisted again at $60/75 BIN.

Tempted to try to win this for less than I did the first time.

Astonishing that no one else BIN it. Still for sale...

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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:24 am

Not an RPG dealer, but an interesting story nevertheless:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/busin ... gewanted=1

benjoshua
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:48 am

sauromatian wrote:Not an RPG dealer, but an interesting story nevertheless:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/busin ... gewanted=1

This was in the Random Thoughts thread:

Kingofpain89 wrote:Interesting story about an individual who seems very similar to cougarrinard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/busin ... lobal-home

It is a fascinating read even though it's lengthy.

Truth is worth finding and life is too short to work for money.

sauromatian
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:58 am

benjoshua wrote:This was in the Random Thoughts thread

I thought I had seen it here, but couldn't find it. Oh well, at least this isn't Dragonsfoot, where such duplication would get the thread locked.

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